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From: linnix on 15 Dec 2009 11:36 On Dec 15, 2:41 am, larwe <zwsdot...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 15, 5:21 am, Mike Harrison <m...(a)whitewing.co.uk> wrote: > > > >If I can't get 20 free samples of a chip that Atmel is already selling > > >to a different division of my company for $0.95/pc at a volume of > > > If you can't get 20 devices transferred inside your company, or ordered from a distributor, the same > > could be said about your company's organisation. > > I can't argue with that. But it is easier to die and be resurrected > than it is to get a PO written for actual money, and there is no way > of transferring assets between SBUs. I would need to cold-call > engineers at a plant in China. That should not be a problem, if you offer to send a courier pickup and with a gift exchange. I am sure they will do it. Sometimes, you have to be flexible.
From: Paul Carpenter on 15 Dec 2009 11:02 In article <47oei51rqtrv3ra74ur4kkq5vigpc063fe(a)4ax.com>, mike(a)whitewing.co.uk says... > On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:04:46 +0000, Peter <nospam(a)nospam9876.com> wrote: > > > > >Paul Carpenter <paul(a)pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> wrote > > > >>MANY distributors are just turning into Freight Forwarders. > > > >Is this NEWS????? :) Not really a comment. > >Here in the UK, distributors became totally useless about 20 years > >ago. A total waste of space. The manufacturer may as well set up a > >direct sales mail order shop. About the time if it is not a PDA/laptop/MP3/Bluetooth/Phone you are making we are not interested started. > ..like Microchip did a while ago - many other makers should learn from this - I'm surprised there > are still any Microchip distributors as I can't see what they could offer compared to > MicrochipDirect. > They have not only sorted out the supply side of things, but also a very cheap programming, marking > and re-reeling service. > > >RS still offers a very good service but only to sell you a stock item. > > As do Farnell,Digikey,Mouser. If a part's not stocked by any of these it immediately goes waaay down > on the design-in candidate list. You have to watch that, as I have been bitten by Farnell/RS haviung stock codes where they obviously got one batch in then mad it no longer stocked in about 6 months! Then it is special order. -- Paul Carpenter | paul(a)pcserviceselectronics.co.uk <http://www.pcserviceselectronics.co.uk/> PC Services <http://www.pcserviceselectronics.co.uk/fonts/> Timing Diagram Font <http://www.gnuh8.org.uk/> GNU H8 - compiler & Renesas H8/H8S/H8 Tiny <http://www.badweb.org.uk/> For those web sites you hate
From: Ulf Samuelsson on 15 Dec 2009 16:16 larwe skrev: > On Dec 14, 3:34 pm, Ulf Samuelsson <u...(a)a-t-m-e-l.com> wrote: > >>>>> I work for a multibillion dollar company and *I* still cannot get >>>>> samples from Atmel. I get samples from the distributor, but I can only >> When such rules apply, there is generally a way to get more. >> You just have to figure out how. > > Ulf, I call bullshit. I speak to someone with a @atmel.com email > address copied on most of the correspondence with this distributor. > When I send an email or make a call on these chips, I am never talking > about fewer than 30kpcs EAU - usually 100k or more. > > If I can't get 20 free samples of a chip that Atmel is already selling > to a different division of my company for $0.95/pc at a volume of > 250-500k per year, then your sampling system is, quite frankly, fscked > up. If you were my customer I would have no problem requesting that you get those 20 samples, and I doubt they would be refused by the people I usually talk to about those issues. Actually I do not remember ever getting refused. Very hard to judge why you are not getting them. If I were you, I would want to talk to the Atmel contact directly, and understand why there is a problem. Obviously you don't want to go through this each and every time, but maybe things can be cleared up once and for all. There is usually an issue at introduction, when volume can be limited regardless of end customer. Are you talking to only one distributor about this? -- Best Regards Ulf Samuelsson These are my own personal opinions, which may or may not be shared by my employer Atmel Nordic AB
From: larwe on 15 Dec 2009 18:13 On Dec 15, 5:56 pm, Peter <nos...(a)nospam9876.com> wrote: > Most of my customers with a need to "get stuff" just buy it on their > credit card and stick it in their expenses. > A company banning that option is run by idiots, IMHO. .... and your point? ;) Our motto is "There's a process for that".
From: Grant Edwards on 16 Dec 2009 09:57
On 2009-12-15, Peter <nospam(a)nospam9876.com> wrote: > > larwe <zwsdotcom(a)gmail.com> wrote > >>On Dec 15, 5:21?am, Mike Harrison <m...(a)whitewing.co.uk> wrote: >> >>>>If I can't get 20 free samples of a chip that Atmel is already >>>>selling to a different division of my company for $0.95/pc at a >>>>volume of >>> >>> If you can't get 20 devices transferred inside your company, or ordered from a distributor, the same >>> could be said about your company's organisation. >> >>I can't argue with that. But it is easier to die and be >>resurrected than it is to get a PO written for actual money, >>and there is no way of transferring assets between SBUs. I >>would need to cold-call engineers at a plant in China. > > Most of my customers with a need to "get stuff" just buy it on > their credit card and stick it in their expenses. > > A company banning that option is run by idiots, IMHO. Which isn't to say that there aren't plenty of companies run by idiots... -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Used staples are good at with SOY SAUCE! visi.com |