From: Larz on
On Dec 16, 1:38 am, Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulf...(a)ppllaanneett.nnll>
wrote:
> Larz wrote:
> > On Dec 14, 11:27 pm, Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulf...(a)ppllaanneett.nnll>
> > wrote:
> >> Larz wrote:
>
> >>>  I managed to get into bios setting with an F key on boot, but I saw
> >>> nothing that looked related to the mouse being disabled du to power
> >>> under any of the menus.
> >>>  I'm concerned that the boot process is taking longer than it used to
> >>> and sometimes it appears to hang and I have to hard reset it in the
> >>> middle of the boot. Once it's up it seems ok for the most part.
> >> Your cmos battery is shot or your bios/settings damaged.
> >> Replace the battery,if you can find it(a thin diskshaped
> >> one).
> >> Also when in the bios,reset to factory default.
> >> And try to find the page with the usb settings.
> >> There look for something called bios support, and enable that.
> >> All the symptoms you mention, point to a dead cmos/bios battery,
> >> or damaged bios software, the last one would require a flash
> >> restore of the bios, or mainboard repair.
> >> That usually means the laptop is(almost) dead.
>
> > I clicked 'load defaults' on bios settings and then 'apply', but after
> > that it never made it to the boot and I had to hard reset. I tried
> > going to diagnostics, but it was taking along time so I exited. After
> > that it seemed to have a problem booting and often started making 3 or
> > 4 beeps constantly. Finally I got it to boot.  At one point I got it
> > so a different mouse seemed to make the machine try to enable it, but
> > I got a message 'device not recognized'.
>
> > CMOS battery replacement is fairly trivial, safe to do and
> > inexpensive ? Once it boots it seems ok, except of course I still have
> > no mouse .. I bought the laptop last year brand new. Dell Inspiron.
> > CMOS should not be dying on me ?
>
> Normally the cmos battery lives 3-6 years.
> You better try for extended warranty.

I often leave my laptop in sleep mode, would that have any effect ?
How much dos one of those cost ?

From: Larz on
>
> Normally the cmos battery lives 3-6 years.
> You better try for extended warranty.

I only paid $400 for this laptop. Around how much might someone
charge me to put in a new cmos battery ? I looked here:
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins4150/en/sm_en/rsrvbatt.htm
which seems to indicate some technical difficulty could be involved.

Are we fairly certain that's the issue ?

I don't see how I could get an extended warranty ? I think I bought
the computer quite a while back. It may have been 6 months ago. I am
trying to remember when it was.

I had thought about getting a mac, but they where kind of expensive
and I don't need to do contract programming work from home or I might
need on of those.

From: Bob Villa on
On Dec 16, 5:45 am, Larz <wbsurf...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Normally the cmos battery lives 3-6 years.
> > You better try for extended warranty.
>
>  I only paid $400 for this laptop. Around how much might someone
> charge me to put in a new cmos battery ? I looked here:http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins4150/en/sm_en/rsrvba...
> which seems to indicate some technical difficulty could be involved.
>
> Are we fairly certain that's the issue ?
>
> I don't see how I could get an extended warranty ?  I think I bought
> the computer quite a while back. It may have been 6 months ago. I am
> trying to remember when it was.
>
>  I had thought about getting a mac, but they where kind of expensive
> and I don't need to do contract programming work from home or I might
> need on of those.

I would doubt it was the Cmos battery. Go to the "Control Panel" and
click "Mouse" then "Hardware" tab, and see if it shows the mouse.
Did the mouse come with a CD? (usually needed for pre-XP)

bob_v
From: Larz on
On Dec 16, 7:43 am, Bob Villa <pheeh.z...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 16, 5:45 am, Larz <wbsurf...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > Normally the cmos battery lives 3-6 years.
> > > You better try for extended warranty.
>
> >  I only paid $400 for this laptop. Around how much might someone
> > charge me to put in a new cmos battery ? I looked here:http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins4150/en/sm_en/rsrvba...
> > which seems to indicate some technical difficulty could be involved.
>
> > Are we fairly certain that's the issue ?
>
> > I don't see how I could get an extended warranty ?  I think I bought
> > the computer quite a while back. It may have been 6 months ago. I am
> > trying to remember when it was.
>
> >  I had thought about getting a mac, but they where kind of expensive
> > and I don't need to do contract programming work from home or I might
> > need on of those.
>
> I would doubt it was the Cmos battery.  Go to the "Control Panel" and
> click "Mouse" then "Hardware" tab, and see if it shows the mouse.
> Did the mouse come with a CD? (usually needed for pre-XP)
>
> bob_v

I bought the laptop new within the last year for $400. I don't think I
got a service plan, but I'll have to call best buy to see if they have
me on file. It was a soon to be discontinued dell model. I've been
using usb mice for a few years on this and my older laptop I had
before, I don't think I ever installed a driver from a CD. It was plug
and play. I'll check out that control panel setting when I get home
where the laptop is. If that doesn't solve anything, should I
reconsider re installing windows vista ? When I bought the laptop it
came with a windows disk ..

From: Bob Villa on
On Dec 16, 9:32 am, Larz <wbsurf...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 16, 7:43 am, Bob Villa <pheeh.z...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 16, 5:45 am, Larz <wbsurf...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Normally the cmos battery lives 3-6 years.
> > > > You better try for extended warranty.
>
> > >  I only paid $400 for this laptop. Around how much might someone
> > > charge me to put in a new cmos battery ? I looked here:http://support..dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins4150/en/sm_en/rsrvba...
> > > which seems to indicate some technical difficulty could be involved.
>
> > > Are we fairly certain that's the issue ?
>
> > > I don't see how I could get an extended warranty ?  I think I bought
> > > the computer quite a while back. It may have been 6 months ago. I am
> > > trying to remember when it was.
>
> > >  I had thought about getting a mac, but they where kind of expensive
> > > and I don't need to do contract programming work from home or I might
> > > need on of those.
>
> > I would doubt it was the Cmos battery.  Go to the "Control Panel" and
> > click "Mouse" then "Hardware" tab, and see if it shows the mouse.
> > Did the mouse come with a CD? (usually needed for pre-XP)
>
> > bob_v
>
> I bought the laptop new within the last year for $400. I don't think I
> got a service plan, but I'll have to call best buy to see if they have
> me on file. It was a soon to be discontinued dell model. I've been
> using usb mice for a few years on this and my older laptop I had
> before, I don't think I ever installed a driver from a CD. It was plug
> and play. I'll check out that control panel setting when I get home
> where the laptop is. If that doesn't solve anything, should I
> reconsider re installing windows vista ? When I bought the laptop it
> came with a windows disk ..

The point being...the driver may be corrupted and a Win2K or XP USB
driver may resurrect it.