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From: Les Matthew on 22 May 2010 07:55 On 22/05/2010 02:15, Joerg wrote: > Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> Joel Koltner wrote: >>> "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in >>> message >>> news:laudv5l9n6n50cqeoo7tnk0772c5mhf072(a)4ax.com... >>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/20/usenet_duke_server/ >>> Low usage? Check. >>> >>> Rising costs? Come on -- the cost of hard drives and bandwidth for >>> Usenet has >>> been dropping ever since it started. >>> >>> I suspect i'ts more like, "disinterest on the part of the current IT >>> guys, and >>> low enough usage that no one will squak too loudly if we pull the plug." >> >> >> No one at Duke that's smart enough to keep it running? >> > > Or even make money off of it like the guys at the university in Berlin, > Germany. They offer Usenet subscription for 10 Euros a year for all > those whose ISP had ditched Usenet. I am posting via them right now, > after AT&T tossed newsgroup access. > I started using this after clara.net ditched their text news server last year. http://www.eternal-september.org/
From: Michael A. Terrell on 22 May 2010 12:20 Les Matthew wrote: > > On 22/05/2010 02:15, Joerg wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > >> Joel Koltner wrote: > >>> "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in > >>> message > >>> news:laudv5l9n6n50cqeoo7tnk0772c5mhf072(a)4ax.com... > >>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/20/usenet_duke_server/ > >>> Low usage? Check. > >>> > >>> Rising costs? Come on -- the cost of hard drives and bandwidth for > >>> Usenet has > >>> been dropping ever since it started. > >>> > >>> I suspect i'ts more like, "disinterest on the part of the current IT > >>> guys, and > >>> low enough usage that no one will squak too loudly if we pull the plug." > >> > >> > >> No one at Duke that's smart enough to keep it running? > >> > > > > Or even make money off of it like the guys at the university in Berlin, > > Germany. They offer Usenet subscription for 10 Euros a year for all > > those whose ISP had ditched Usenet. I am posting via them right now, > > after AT&T tossed newsgroup access. > > > > I started using this after clara.net ditched their text news server last > year. > > http://www.eternal-september.org/ It was called first called mozzarella. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
From: Martin Brown on 24 May 2010 03:55 On 22/05/2010 00:10, Joel Koltner wrote: > "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in > message news:laudv5l9n6n50cqeoo7tnk0772c5mhf072(a)4ax.com... >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/20/usenet_duke_server/ > > Low usage? Check. Basically true. Many of the sci.* groups are dying now due to aggressive attacks by Chinese spammers, hipcryme and various unsavory trolls. Many serious players have moved to private mailing lists with partial moderation or access by invitation only to avoid the problems. Same for astronomy, computer chess and software engineering the Usenet groups are a shadow of their former selves. Mickeysoft has announced it is cancelling microsoft.public.excel.* on 1st June this year - I don't think they actually understand how Usenet works :( > Rising costs? Come on -- the cost of hard drives and bandwidth for > Usenet has been dropping ever since it started. It is the huge data bandwidth that a push system like Usenet uses (especially the binary groups). Everything is moved to everywhere by NNTP whether anyone has asked for it or not. By comparison a web based served on request mechanism with local caching is massively less consuming of their bandwidth allocation. ie cheaper to run. > > I suspect i'ts more like, "disinterest on the part of the current IT > guys, and low enough usage that no one will squak too loudly if we pull > the plug." Most ISPs have come to the conclusion that there is no future for them in providing a Usenet service. It costs them very dear in bandwidth charges and they cannot make money from it. Regards, Martin Brown
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 24 May 2010 07:54 On 22/05/2010 02:15, Joerg wrote: > Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> Joel Koltner wrote: >>> "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in >>> message >>> news:laudv5l9n6n50cqeoo7tnk0772c5mhf072(a)4ax.com... >>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/20/usenet_duke_server/ >>> Low usage? Check. >>> >>> Rising costs? Come on -- the cost of hard drives and bandwidth for >>> Usenet has >>> been dropping ever since it started. >>> >>> I suspect i'ts more like, "disinterest on the part of the current IT >>> guys, and >>> low enough usage that no one will squak too loudly if we pull the plug." >> >> >> No one at Duke that's smart enough to keep it running? >> > > Or even make money off of it like the guys at the university in Berlin, > Germany. They offer Usenet subscription for 10 Euros a year for all > those whose ISP had ditched Usenet. I am posting via them right now, > after AT&T tossed newsgroup access. > Ditto -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Proteus IIV on 25 May 2010 05:43
YES THEY HAVE VERY GOOD SOFTWARE BUT YOU CANNOT PUT IT ALL ON THEM THERE ARE ALWAYS EXTERNAL FACTORS THAT ARE FAR FROM CONSIDERED OR COST EFFECTIVE THERE ARE MANY COMPANIES THAT HAVE DROPPED THE NEWSGROUPS PERHAPS USENET ALTOGETHER FOR GOO REASON I AM PROTEUS |