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From: Archimedes Plutonium on 30 Jun 2010 21:41 Let me recap what this adventure is plunging into. We notice the old math system never defined with precision the difference between a finite number and an infinite number. So that 3 is a Peano axiom number as well as 3333....33333. So the next question was, since the old math is so poor in definitions, cannot even distinguish between a finite number and an infinite number, that how in the world such a messy system still allows for a proof of Infinitude of Primes but never any proof of Twin Primes? In other words, the old math is messy and ill-defined, so should that have prevented even a Euclid Infinitude of Primes proof? The answer is obviously not, in that even though it was messy, it still allowed for a IP proof. It even allows for a proof that the counting numbers are infinite, since you add one more to the highest number of any finite set. But the boundary line for the old math of having a ill defined finite- number versus infinite-number is that of Infinitude of Primes and Twin Primes. If we define finite number as all numbers less than 10^500, we have instantly a proof of Twin Primes, since we find a pair of twin primes larger than 10^500, and (10^500)+1 and (10^500) +3 are the first two candidates. Now I said the reason that Twin Primes, FLT, Goldbach, Riemann Hypothesis were different from Infinitude of Primes is that those were two dimensional asking more than just whether the primes were infinite. RH asks alot of complex questions of the state of infinity. Goldbach and FLT and Twin Primes deal with infinity but also deal with operations of infinity such as adding in infinity. Whereas Euclid's Infinitude of Primes is a one dimensional conjecture. And I said that this complexity deals with the place-value of infinite-numbers. But I maybe able to give a geometry reason for why Twin primes is unprovable when finite versus infinite numbers are never defined properly. In geometry we have finite lines as line segments. Now can finite lines form to make a infinite-line? It seems that noone has ever asked that before. Since all finite lines are line segments, only an infinite-number of finite line segments can make an infinite line or infinite line ray. But old math never defined "infinite number". So in geometry we can never build a infinite line from that of finite line segments unless of course we define infinite-number. If we define the finite number as less than 10^500 then if we had 10^500 one unit line segments we can put them together to form an infinite line or infinite line ray. Likewise, we can demonstrate that the addition of all line segments of 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + . . + 10^500 forms a infinite line ray. We can also prove that there is an infinitude of prime segments since we add a prime that is larger than 10^500. We also can prove an infinitude of Twin Prime segments by just adding a twin prime larger than 10^500. So how does Geometry in fact escape the dilemma mess of old math Number theory that never well defined finite-number versus infinite-number? How did Geometry sneek past Number theory with a well defined finite-line versus infinite-line? Well most human minds sense right and wrong with geometry far easier than they do with algebra and quantities. We know a line is finite since it has two endpoints. We know a line is infinite if it has at least one arrow rather than two endpoints. And no matter how many finite line segments we add together, we never can turn those line segments into a infinite line ray, unless we know what an infinite-number is. If we define infinite number as greater than 10^500, then we can build a infinite line ray out of finite line segments. Sorry, this post is too long already, and I am not able to explain why Twin primes has no proof yet regular primes has a proof when the old system of math never defined finite-number from infinite-number. The geometry talk does not explain the cutoff from Regular primes to Twin Primes unprovability. I am searching for a geometry reason why Twin Primes is never provable, rather than the Place-Value explanation. It may come down that I cannot explain it without Place Value. Archimedes Plutonium http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/ whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |