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From: Mike T. on 22 Feb 2007 09:50

"DaveW" <done(a)gone.org> wrote in message
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> You likely missed something. You HAVE to turn off the onboard VGA in the
> BIOS in order for the AGP slot to work on most motherboards.
>

Yes, but his manual says it should work anyway. So I think he's dealing
with a dead video card, or he needs to flash his BIOS to a later
ersion. -Dave


From: John Doe on 22 Feb 2007 13:34
"Mike T." <noway(a)nohow.not> wrote:

>
> <arthur.nudge(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1172091320.624093.147760(a)l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

>> The only thing I can find is on the PCI/Plug and Play page:
>> Share Memory size [32mb]
>> Primary Graphics Adapter [AGP]
>> Allocate IRQ for PCI VGA [NO]
>>
>> The manual claims that "the default AGP setting still lets the
>> onboard display work and allows the use of a second display card
>> installed in an AGP slot."
>
> Oh!!! That throws a different light on the situation. I'd
> suggest you test your new AGP video card in a different system.

Adding a spare monitor so that both video connectors are in use
might tell something.

> Regardless of what the manual says, what should be
> happening is NOT happening. So you've got a hardware problem (new
> video card defective) or more likely a BIOS issue, which hopefully
> would be solved by flashing your BIOS to a later version.

I tend to agree.

> You've got another problem. If you can get the computer to boot
> at default BIOS settings, Windows will want to use your monitor as
> a SECOND monitor. So you've still got to find a way to disable
> onboard video, somehow. -Dave

Windows ignores a connected secondary monitor unless you enable it
in Display Properties.








From: x5 on 22 Feb 2007 14:24
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:48:40 -0500, "Mike T." <noway(a)nohow.not> wrote:

>
><arthur.nudge(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1172091320.624093.147760(a)l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>>> First you need to find the exact specifications of your mainboard. There
>>> were THREE different versions of it (P4VMM) released by ECS. I know the
>>> latest version supported AGP 4X, but did all three of them? If you can
>>> confirm that your board is AGP 4X compatible:
>>
>> I double checked, it's the p4vmm3, and the manual confirms that it
>> supports 4x.
>>>
>>> You must be missing something in the BIOS.
>>
>> The only thing I can find is on the PCI/Plug and Play page:
>> Share Memory size [32mb]
>> Primary Graphics Adapter [AGP]
>> Allocate IRQ for PCI VGA [NO]
>>
>> The manual claims that "the default AGP setting still lets the onboard
>> display work and allows the use of a second display card installed in
>> an AGP slot."
>
>Oh!!! That throws a different light on the situation. I'd suggest you test
>your new AGP video card in a different system. If you can confirm that the
>new video card is working fine, then you probably need to flash your BIOS to
>a later version. Regardless of what the manual says, what should be
>happening is NOT happening. So you've got a hardware problem (new video
>card defective) or more likely a BIOS issue, which hopefully would be solved
>by flashing your BIOS to a later version.
>
>You've got another problem. If you can get the computer to boot at default
>BIOS settings, Windows will want to use your monitor as a SECOND monitor.
>So you've still got to find a way to disable onboard video, somehow. -Dave
>

if your are bootin in dual video card mode, your 2nd card will have
a dark screen until u enable dual monitor in windows. but since your
AGP is the primary you should be able to see the dos boot! have you
tried both vid connection? or just the AGP? boot an try the agp and
then the on board. if nothing then ur out of luck. try lowering
or turn of the share memory share. some BIOS lets u disable the
inboard other dont.

anyway u get what u pay for on ebay! i got my share lemon buy there

buy a brand new card, they are pretty cheap for the perfomance these
days.


From: Dave on 22 Feb 2007 19:27
>> You've got another problem. If you can get the computer to boot
>> at default BIOS settings, Windows will want to use your monitor as
>> a SECOND monitor. So you've still got to find a way to disable
>> onboard video, somehow. -Dave
>
> Windows ignores a connected secondary monitor unless you enable it
> in Display Properties.
>

EXACTLY!!! That's why if the monitor is connected to the new video card, no
video will display. -Dave


From: Frank McCoy on 22 Feb 2007 19:49
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Mike T." <noway(a)nohow.not> wrote:

>
><arthur.nudge(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1172091320.624093.147760(a)l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>>> First you need to find the exact specifications of your mainboard. There
>>> were THREE different versions of it (P4VMM) released by ECS. I know the
>>> latest version supported AGP 4X, but did all three of them? If you can
>>> confirm that your board is AGP 4X compatible:
>>
>> I double checked, it's the p4vmm3, and the manual confirms that it
>> supports 4x.
>>>
>>> You must be missing something in the BIOS.
>>
>> The only thing I can find is on the PCI/Plug and Play page:
>> Share Memory size [32mb]
>> Primary Graphics Adapter [AGP]
>> Allocate IRQ for PCI VGA [NO]
>>
>> The manual claims that "the default AGP setting still lets the onboard
>> display work and allows the use of a second display card installed in
>> an AGP slot."
>
>Oh!!! That throws a different light on the situation. I'd suggest you test
>your new AGP video card in a different system. If you can confirm that the
>new video card is working fine, then you probably need to flash your BIOS to
>a later version. Regardless of what the manual says, what should be
>happening is NOT happening. So you've got a hardware problem (new video
>card defective) or more likely a BIOS issue, which hopefully would be solved
>by flashing your BIOS to a later version.
>
Instead, try booting with the default (onboard video), get into SETUP,
and see if there's a way in SETUP to disable the primary video.
Sometimes they're stupid, and require a BIOS setting-change to even look
at the other video-board.

>You've got another problem. If you can get the computer to boot at default
>BIOS settings, Windows will want to use your monitor as a SECOND monitor.
>So you've still got to find a way to disable onboard video, somehow. -Dave
>
Also, does your motherboard support the voltage-settings of the new
board? I remember having a large worry about my new ATI AGP board when
the instructions warned that it *only* ran on 1.5volt capable AGP slots
.... Not the older 5 volt only ones. No warnings that the higher voltage
would burn it out; only that it wouldn't work. I suspect an interface
compatibility problem.

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