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From: Rod Speed on 4 Jun 2010 23:41 terryc wrote > Rod Speed wrote >> terryc wrote >>> Hunter wrote >>>> Ads pay a lot more on TV. >>> It can not be that much, given what is now being advertised. >> It is anyway. >>> Although, thinking back, K-tel managed prime time adds. >> Try pricing them sometime. > Lol, FWIR, I think the figure is under 20K all up, depending on amount and time of day you advertise. You're wrong, as always. And that is a hell of a lot more than web site ads cost anyway. > Yep, late night add by some production company amongst all the skin tones and hushed voices. You'll end up completely blind if you dont watch out.
From: Rod Speed on 4 Jun 2010 23:50 terryc wrote > Rod Speed wrote >> terryc wrote >>> Hunter wrote >>>> How are the commercial news websites going to survive when most >>>> countries now have a government funded online news service? Our is >>>> news.abc.net.au and they will never charge for it. >>> Quality, being original and first. >> Difficult to do consistently with the sort of money that they can get by charging for access. > It would be like any business. Nope, nothing like. > Some activities ands methods work and others do not. And while ever the govt funded operation dont charge for access, and do a pretty decent job of providing the news most want, charging for access wont work. > The skill to a any successful business is > knowing/picking/ learning which work. e.g Crikey. Not even possible with charging for access while ever the govt funded operation dont charge for access, and do a pretty decent job of providing the news most want. > Caveat, I have no idea how successful/ profitable it really is. Pathetically unsuccessful financially. And it doesnt have to compete with a govt funded operation that doesnt charge for access anyway. >>> The ABC news is all regurgitated feeds from elsewhere. >> Not all of it is, most obviously with what has just happened in Israel. > Before Y2k, I was involved in a roll out of upgrade to their "news desk" service. > Its 3am and the upgrade is just one big schmozzle and definitely not working And then the world moved on, just like it always does. And how things were done at that time of the day has absolutely nothing to do with what happens in prime time anyway. > and I'm strongly suggesting its time to roll back, but Nope. > it is allowed to progress and is left in a broken state for 6am. > Nothing can be filed from London, Uk. the link is broken. I later > found out, that it hadn't actually been used for over three months > anyway. All the London/Uk stories have come in from other > services/wires or other means. So, it has been happening from a while. Irrelevant to what was happening with other stuff from ABC sources. We have just seen it work pretty well with the latest Israeli fuckup. > Try watching SBS 6:30, ABC and 7:30 report and it can be three identical shot and stories. And much more often there isnt. And all that proves is that SBS steals from the ABC anyway.
From: Rod Speed on 4 Jun 2010 23:52 Hunter wrote > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote >> Hunter wrote >>> How are the commercial news websites going to survive when most >>> countries now have a government funded online news service? >> In theory by have more apes on the ground feeding their web sites with news. >> Dubious proposition tho. >>> Our is news.abc.net.au and they will never charge for it. >> Yes, but it remains to be seen how much they will choose to >> spend on say showing up at interesting trials for long times etc. > Also worth noting is this is the first time a government-run "print" news service has existed in many countries. Thats not true of the communist block.
From: Hunter on 4 Jun 2010 23:59 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:86tvvlF192U1(a)mid.individual.net... > Hunter wrote >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote >>> Hunter wrote > >>>> How are the commercial news websites going to survive when most >>>> countries now have a government funded online news service? > >>> In theory by have more apes on the ground feeding their web sites with >>> news. > >>> Dubious proposition tho. > >>>> Our is news.abc.net.au and they will never charge for it. > >>> Yes, but it remains to be seen how much they will choose to >>> spend on say showing up at interesting trials for long times etc. > >> Also worth noting is this is the first time a government-run "print" news >> service has existed in many countries. > > Thats not true of the communist block. > That's why I said "many countries".
From: Rod Speed on 5 Jun 2010 00:35
[snivel] wrote > Rod Speed wrote >> terryc wrote >>> Hunter wrote >>>> How are the commercial news websites going to survive when most >>>> countries now have a government funded online news service? Our is >>>> news.abc.net.au and they will never charge for it. >>> Quality, being original and first. >> Difficult to do consistently with the sort of money that they can get by charging for access. > It would be like any business. Nope, nothing like. > Some activities ands methods work and others do not. [be displeased] [crash] [abuse] [bray] govt [carp] operation dont [fret] [indict] access, and do [quack baa oink neigh bark meow] pretty [sorrow] [bay] [take exception] providing the [spill the beans] most want, [bang] for access wont work. > The skill to a any successful business is > knowing/picking/ learning which work. e.g Crikey. [hoo-ha] [puff] [chink clang clank clink] with charging [flightiness] [chew the fat] while ever [giggle] [make a to-do over] funded operation dont [bear] for access, and [rat-a-tat] [gobbledygook] [wrangle] [needeep needeep ribbit ribbit braarp] [hee-haw hee-haw] [murmur] providing the [claptrap] [baa moo neigh hee-haw] want. > Caveat, I have no idea how successful/ profitable it really is. [fizzle] [inveigh] financially. [chortle chuckle gasp] [mutter] [rap session] [long for] [chortle chuckle gasp] [shoot the breeze] [quack] [blaspheme] [enthuse] funded [quack baa oink neigh bark meow] [heart-to-heart] [gab] charge [muddle] [discord] anyway. >>> The ABC news is all regurgitated feeds from elsewhere. >> Not all of it is, most obviously with what has just happened in Israel. > Before Y2k, I was involved in a roll out of upgrade to their "news desk" service. > Its 3am and the upgrade is just one big schmozzle and definitely not working [covet] [grieve for] the [altercate] [kick] on, just like [dish] [woof!] does. And [racket] things [utter] [shriek sigh snicker bow-wow woof] [hee-haw hee-haw] [sigh] [squeak squeal whinny woof] of the day [run off at the mouth] [whoop] [blub] to [ding-dong ping ring jingle moo] with what happens in prime [discourse] anyway. > and I'm strongly suggesting its time to roll back, but Nope. > it is allowed to progress and is left in a broken state for 6am. > Nothing can be filed from London, Uk. the link is broken. I later > found out, that it hadn't actually been used for over three months > anyway. All the London/Uk stories have come in from other > services/wires or other means. So, it has been happening from a while. [hoot] [go on and on] what was [let out] [prating] [rumble] [feel distress] [threaten] [inveigh against] sources. [sputter] have [rat-a-tat] [bow-wow] [excurse] [hee-haw hee-haw] [effuse] [moo] [burble] [shriek sigh snicker bow-wow woof] latest [squeak squeal whinny woof] fuckup. > Try watching SBS 6:30, ABC and 7:30 report and it can be three identical shot and stories. And much more [excoriate] [visit] isnt. [trash] [soft soap] [fizz] [bray] [carp] that [sorrow] steals [dissent] [gobble] [intone] anyway. |