what are the requirement/elgibility to become a Free Lancer programmer?
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From: "beginner_in->" on 6 May 2010 08:27 hello friends! I just wanna be a free lancer programmer as soon as possible.. who has major proficiency in java along with other... so please suggest me what to do to establish my market value and reputation and as well as what more to learn. with regards and many Thanks to all Gurus, Nikhil S,
From: Break Point on 6 May 2010 08:57 On 06/05/2010 13:27, beginner_in-> wrote: > hello friends! > > I just wanna be a free lancer programmer as soon as possible.. who has > major proficiency in java along with other... so please suggest me > what to do to establish my market value and reputation and as well as > what more to learn. > > with regards and many Thanks to all Gurus, > Nikhil S, I think what you're looking for is a step-by-step guide to becoming a freelance programmer in a week. It's just not possible. Programming is like any skilled profession, you need to actually be good at it, and more importantly, experienced in it. It's a bit like wanting to become a freelance builder a week after you've been shown how to build your first basic garden wall. From this and your other similar post ("need suggestions to learn Java to become an Freelance programmer") it sounds like you're a student in need of some extra cash to help with your studies. I'm afraid you'll likely have more luck if you bite the bullet and go get that bar staff/shop assistant role like so many of us have had to do in the past. Something I learned soon after joining the working world is that study-programming and commercial-programming are two very different beasts. Perhaps think of it like learning to drive. You spend 100+ hours in a car with an expert, take a test, gain a license, buy a car and get on the road... Then you start to learn how to drive. If what I and others have already told you is not what you want to hear, or you consider us wrong, then you'll simply be looking for some tutorial links and perhaps a freelance website. If so, here they are: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/ http://www.guru.com/ -- BP 00 --
From: Lew on 6 May 2010 09:30 beginner_in-> wrote: >> I just wanna be a free lancer programmer as soon as possible.. who has > It will help if you avoid slangy, informal language with prospective clients. What programming background do you have so far? You keep waving this vague "I wanna be" around but you don't tell us where you are right now. How will you progress if you don't take stock of where you begin? >> major proficiency in java [sic] along with other... so please suggest me > As someone else mentioned, you'll have an easier time if you at least learn to spell the name of the computer language in which you represent yourself as proficient. >> what to do to establish my market value and reputation and as well as >> what more to learn. > You have everything to learn. You aren't going to be good if you're into programming to make money and looking for cheap shortcuts. Good programmers, like good musicians or good carpenters, have a love of and a feel for the art. Some people will never be good programmers and should not steal from employers by collecting paychecks as programmers. Break Point wrote: > I think what you're looking for is a step-by-step guide to becoming a > freelance programmer in a week. It's just not possible. > > Programming is like any skilled profession, you need to actually be good > at it, and more importantly, experienced in it. It's a bit like wanting > to become a freelance builder a week after you've been shown how to > build your first basic garden wall. > > From this and your other similar post ("need suggestions to learn Java > to become an Freelance programmer") it sounds like you're a student in > need of some extra cash to help with your studies. I'm afraid you'll > likely have more luck if you bite the bullet and go get that bar > staff/shop assistant role like so many of us have had to do in the past. > > Something I learned soon after joining the working world is that > study-programming and commercial-programming are two very different beasts. > > Perhaps think of it like learning to drive. You spend 100+ hours in a > car with an expert, take a test, gain a license, buy a car and get on > the road... Then you start to learn how to drive. > > If what I and others have already told you is not what you want to hear, > or you consider us wrong, then you'll simply be looking for some > tutorial links and perhaps a freelance website. If so, here they are: > > http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/ > > http://www.guru.com/ > A few years ago a friend of mine who was a brilliant programmer without a college degree was laid off during an economic downturn. He could not find programming work, so he took a night job driving a forklift in a warehouse and spent two years getting his college degree. Shortly after graduation he landed a sweet programming job and moved into a beautiful community with his family. There are no magic bullets. -- Lew
From: Arne Vajhøj on 6 May 2010 19:45 On 06-05-2010 08:27, beginner_in-> wrote: > I just wanna be a free lancer programmer as soon as possible.. who has > major proficiency in java along with other... so please suggest me > what to do to establish my market value and reputation and as well as > what more to learn. 10 years of experience will help a lot. Arne
From: "beginner_in->" on 8 May 2010 02:55 On May 6, 6:30 pm, Lew <l...(a)lewscanon.com> wrote: > beginner_in-> wrote: > >> I just wanna be a free lancer programmer as soon as possible.. who has > > It will help if you avoid slangy, informal language with prospective > clients. > > What programming background do you have so far? You keep waving this > vague "I wanna be" around but you don't tell us where you are right > now. How will you progress if you don't take stock of where you > begin? > > >> major proficiency in java [sic] along with other... so please suggest me > > As someone else mentioned, you'll have an easier time if you at least > learn to spell the name of the computer language in which you > represent yourself as proficient. > > >> what to do to establish my market value and reputation and as well as > >> what more to learn. > > You have everything to learn. You aren't going to be good if you're > into programming to make money and looking for cheap shortcuts. Good > programmers, like good musicians or good carpenters, have a love of > and a feel for the art. Some people will never be good programmers > and should not steal from employers by collecting paychecks as > programmers. > > > > > > Break Point wrote: > > I think what you're looking for is a step-by-step guide to becoming a > > freelance programmer in a week. It's just not possible. > > > Programming is like any skilled profession, you need to actually be good > > at it, and more importantly, experienced in it. It's a bit like wanting > > to become a freelance builder a week after you've been shown how to > > build your first basic garden wall. > > > From this and your other similar post ("need suggestions to learn Java > > to become an Freelance programmer") it sounds like you're a student in > > need of some extra cash to help with your studies. I'm afraid you'll > > likely have more luck if you bite the bullet and go get that bar > > staff/shop assistant role like so many of us have had to do in the past.. > > > Something I learned soon after joining the working world is that > > study-programming and commercial-programming are two very different beasts. > > > Perhaps think of it like learning to drive. You spend 100+ hours in a > > car with an expert, take a test, gain a license, buy a car and get on > > the road... Then you start to learn how to drive. > > > If what I and others have already told you is not what you want to hear, > > or you consider us wrong, then you'll simply be looking for some > > tutorial links and perhaps a freelance website. If so, here they are: > > >http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/ > > >http://www.guru.com/ > > A few years ago a friend of mine who was a brilliant programmer > without a college degree was laid off during an economic downturn. He > could not find programming work, so he took a night job driving a > forklift in a warehouse and spent two years getting his college > degree. Shortly after graduation he landed a sweet programming job > and moved into a beautiful community with his family. > > There are no magic bullets. > > -- > Lew Actually i m impressed by an Entrepreneur success and as well as their hard work too.. he had worked a lot during his engineering, so I guessed , why I cannot do this while this thing is what I want to be in my life. if you want to read about him, then please click on following link http://www.yourstory.in/entrepreneurs/youngturks-my-startup-story/3821-vijay-shekhar-sharma I need some guide that I have got, but sorry for overlooking at technology/experience/hard work.... I have also post same topic in this forum http://groups.google.co.in/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/04b8e3ab80b72ff9/f201ce8de610a6dc?lnk=raot Thanks everyone again!!
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