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From: Archimedes Plutonium on 19 Jul 2010 03:57 Archimedes Plutonium wrote: > It turns out that a precision definition of finite-number versus > infinite-number had two > severe cases in all of mathematics, one in Algebra as the Fermat's > Last Theorem > and the other in geometry as the Poincare Conjecture. > Well, wait a minute here, perhaps Kepler Packing suffered much more than did the Poincare Conjecture. I guess why I picked Poincare is because it deals so directly with the ill-defining of the continuity as we go smaller than 10^-500. But the Kepler Packing was never proveable for it never defined the infinity boundary of 10^500 for the large and 10^-500 for the end of the small. The Kepler Packing is roughly over 300 years old yet the Poincare Conjecture is over 100 years old. Now if in Kepler's time, if it were announced to Mr. Kepler that infinity is the boundary at 10^500 and you cannot go smaller than 10^-500, would Mr. Kepler then have proven his own conjecture? I think he would have by imagining such a container and then approaching the container walls with his unit spheres. Kepler would have realized that the maximum packing is going to have to do some adjustments as the spheres approach the walls, adjustments so that the hexagonal closed packing is not the only pattern but that some opportunistic changes of the pattern near the walls, delivers a more dense packing. And if Mr. Poincare had been advised that mathematics needs a precision definition of the tiny and that there is no absolute continuity, without much doubt, Mr. Poincare would have retracted his conjecture, and possibly entered a new conjecture with that feature of 10^-500 gaps in mind. And it goes to show that mathematics can hobble along quite well, even though it had major flaws of definition for the majority of its history. It goes to show that a science can still be productive even though it has a major flaw at its core. I suppose the analogy is the leaching or blood letting in Medieval times by the science of medicine. It held back medicine, but it still plodded along. That is a nice analogy to mathematics, that without a precision boundary of finite-number versus infinite-number is the leaching and bloodletting of students in mathematics. Archimedes Plutonium http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/ whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |