From: Celejar on
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:42:24 -0700
Paul Scott <waterhorse(a)ultrasw.com> wrote:

> On 07/06/2010 08:28 PM, Celejar wrote:
> > On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 19:59:11 -0700
> > Paul Scott<waterhorse(a)ultrasw.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 07/06/2010 06:31 PM, Celejar wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 17:41:07 -0700
> >>> Paul Scott<waterhorse(a)ultrasw.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Debian sid.
> >>>>
> >>>> A little over a week ago my laptop stopped being able to complete a connection. I am using an
> >>>> Orinoco Silver (Hermes chipset)
> >>>> The failure is the well-known "unable to obtain IP address." I have used both wicd and
> >>>> Gnome Network Manager. iwlist and wifi-radar can see the access point. dhclient also fails.
> >>>>
> >>>> TIA for any ideas as to how to diagnose and solve this,
> >>>
> >
> > Okay, the card reports that it's connected. What's the output of 'iwconfig eth2'?
>
> iwconfig:
>
> eth2 IEEE 802.11b ESSID:"bliss"
> Mode:Managed Frequency:2.457 GHz Access Point: None
> Bit Rate:11 Mb/s Sensitivity:1/0
> Retry limit:8 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
> Encryption key:off
> Power Management:off
> Link Quality=80/70 Signal level=-22 dBm Noise level=-92 dBm
> Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
> Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0

I can't be sure, since different drivers behave differently, and I have
no experience with the Orinoco / Hermes, but generally, this means that
the card isn't associated with the AP. When it is, you should see
"Acess Point: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx", with the hex digits of the AP's
address.

We need to figure out why the card isn't associating. Are you using
WEP/WPA?

> and ifconfig:
>
> eth2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:2d:1e:db:1f
> inet6 addr: fe80::202:2dff:fe1e:db1f/64 Scope:Link
> UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
> RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:1 errors:60 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:16555 (16.1 KiB)
> Interrupt:3 Base address:0x100

ifconfig doesn't matter here, since the problem is with the wireless
association.

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From: Paul Scott on
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 11:54:30PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:42:24 -0700
> Paul Scott <waterhorse(a)ultrasw.com> wrote:
>
> > On 07/06/2010 08:28 PM, Celejar wrote:
> > > On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 19:59:11 -0700
> > > Paul Scott<waterhorse(a)ultrasw.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, the card reports that it's connected. What's the output of 'iwconfig eth2'?
> >
> > iwconfig:
> >
> > eth2 IEEE 802.11b ESSID:"bliss"
> > Mode:Managed Frequency:2.457 GHz Access Point: None
> > Bit Rate:11 Mb/s Sensitivity:1/0
> > Retry limit:8 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
> > Encryption key:off
> > Power Management:off
> > Link Quality=80/70 Signal level=-22 dBm Noise level=-92 dBm
> > Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
> > Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0
>
> I can't be sure, since different drivers behave differently, and I have
> no experience with the Orinoco / Hermes, but generally, this means that
> the card isn't associated with the AP. When it is, you should see
> "Acess Point: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx", with the hex digits of the AP's
> address.
>
> We need to figure out why the card isn't associating. Are you using
> WEP/WPA?

Not at this point. (That's another story)

> > and ifconfig:
> >
> > eth2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:2d:1e:db:1f
> > inet6 addr: fe80::202:2dff:fe1e:db1f/64 Scope:Link
> > UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
> > RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> > TX packets:1 errors:60 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> > RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:16555 (16.1 KiB)
> > Interrupt:3 Base address:0x100
>
> ifconfig doesn't matter here, since the problem is with the wireless
> association.

It will when we get an IP address. Any idea why we get an IPv6 address?

Thanks,

Paul



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From: Celejar on
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 21:04:22 -0700
Paul Scott <waterhorse(a)ultrasw.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 11:54:30PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> > On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:42:24 -0700
> > Paul Scott <waterhorse(a)ultrasw.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 07/06/2010 08:28 PM, Celejar wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 19:59:11 -0700
> > > > Paul Scott<waterhorse(a)ultrasw.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Okay, the card reports that it's connected. What's the output of 'iwconfig eth2'?
> > >
> > > iwconfig:
> > >
> > > eth2 IEEE 802.11b ESSID:"bliss"
> > > Mode:Managed Frequency:2.457 GHz Access Point: None
> > > Bit Rate:11 Mb/s Sensitivity:1/0
> > > Retry limit:8 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
> > > Encryption key:off
> > > Power Management:off
> > > Link Quality=80/70 Signal level=-22 dBm Noise level=-92 dBm
> > > Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
> > > Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0
> >
> > I can't be sure, since different drivers behave differently, and I have
> > no experience with the Orinoco / Hermes, but generally, this means that
> > the card isn't associated with the AP. When it is, you should see
> > "Acess Point: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx", with the hex digits of the AP's
> > address.
> >
> > We need to figure out why the card isn't associating. Are you using
> > WEP/WPA?
>
> Not at this point. (That's another story)

Okay, try bringing the card down, then back up (ifconfig down, ifconfig
up), and then trying to associate manually (iwconfig ethX essid nnnn),
see if it associates, and if not, see the logs.

> > > and ifconfig:
> > >
> > > eth2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:2d:1e:db:1f
> > > inet6 addr: fe80::202:2dff:fe1e:db1f/64 Scope:Link
> > > UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
> > > RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> > > TX packets:1 errors:60 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> > > RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:16555 (16.1 KiB)
> > > Interrupt:3 Base address:0x100
> >
> > ifconfig doesn't matter here, since the problem is with the wireless
> > association.
>
> It will when we get an IP address. Any idea why we get an IPv6 address?

No, sorry. I don't know anything about IPv6.

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From: Paul Scott on
On 07/06/2010 09:29 PM, Celejar wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 21:04:22 -0700
> Paul Scott<waterhorse(a)ultrasw.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 11:54:30PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
>>> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:42:24 -0700
>>> Paul Scott<waterhorse(a)ultrasw.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/06/2010 08:28 PM, Celejar wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 19:59:11 -0700
>>>>> Paul Scott<waterhorse(a)ultrasw.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, the card reports that it's connected. What's the output of 'iwconfig eth2'?
>>>>
>>>> iwconfig:
>>>>
>>>> eth2 IEEE 802.11b ESSID:"bliss"
>>>> Mode:Managed Frequency:2.457 GHz Access Point: None
>>>> Bit Rate:11 Mb/s Sensitivity:1/0
....

>>> I can't be sure, since different drivers behave differently, and I have
>>> no experience with the Orinoco / Hermes, but generally, this means that
>>> the card isn't associated with the AP. When it is, you should see
>>> "Acess Point: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx", with the hex digits of the AP's
>>> address.
>>>
....

> Okay, try bringing the card down, then back up (ifconfig down, ifconfig
> up), and then trying to associate manually (iwconfig ethX essid nnnn),
> see if it associates, and if not, see the logs.

Ok. I think the key in the logs is

eth2: Lucent/Agere firmware doesn't support manual roaming

According to other research I have done the firmware seems to be a
corrupted version from the last update. I will try going back to the
previous version since I can't seem to find a corrected file which is
supposed to be available various places online.

Thanks,

Paul




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