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From: Christopher Muto on 13 Jun 2010 18:01 Nate Nagel wrote: > On 06/12/2010 05:25 PM, Christopher Muto wrote: >> Nate Nagel wrote: >>> On 06/12/2010 02:03 AM, Ben Myers wrote: >>>> On 6/11/2010 8:39 PM, Nate Nagel wrote: >>>>> subject says all... system is perfect except video card is dead. I >>>>> already baked it once, and it died again less than a month later. Is >>>>> there any inexpensive video card that will fit this laptop so I can >>>>> pass >>>>> it on to someone (I've already purchased a replacement) or should I >>>>> just >>>>> consign it to the junk pile? >>>>> >>>>> nate >>>>> >>>> >>>> It all depends on the cost of a replacement graphics card. Some of the >>>> 3rd party parts houses are selling them for over $200, your typical >>>> unrealistic high price that corporate procurement departments and >>>> government toilet seat purchasers are willing to pay. For me, the $200 >>>> is probably not worth it. >>>> >>>> nVidia cards have the annoying habit for burning out. This may also be >>>> exacerbated by the design of the air flow in the Precision M90. >>>> >>>> Whatever you do, do not junk it. At worst, gift it to a small >>>> independent local repair shop. You can send it to me, and I'll pay the >>>> shipping, but it really is worth more than that... Ben Myers >>> >>> If you're serious, would you be interested in the whole mess minus HDD >>> (because I have no way of removing all personal files, passwords, etc. >>> without booting it) but with a working d/dock or d/port? (bought them >>> used and cheap off eBay because they work on both my work laptop and >>> the M90, but now we're getting E-series laptops for work, the M90 is >>> dead, and I replaced it with a Studio something or other which has no >>> docking station connector.) It does not have the WUXGA screen but I do >>> have a memory upgrade for it. I basically just need to clean out all >>> my nonfunctional junk before my basement gets overrun with PC parts >>> that I'm not using. >>> >>> I did a cursory search online, and found that all video cards listed >>> to fit were in the $2-300 range, the Studio was smaller, lighter, >>> $600, and had a full 1080p screen, the decision was easy. >>> >>> nate >>> >> >> to wipe the drive download a free utility called boot and nuke. >> http://www.dban.org/download >> the download is an 'iso' file which is an image file of a bootable cd. >> dell's with roxio 8 and above are able to open the iso file and burn it >> to a cd. then boot the computer from the cd and follow the very simple >> prompts to wipe the machine to department of defense standards... it is >> very easy but does take considerable time to complete on large drives. > > Right... but I can't boot the machine because the video card is dead. > otherwise I'd do a restore on it and then it'd even have an OS installed. > > nate > not true. you can temporarily put the drive into another laptop ($0), or get an adapter to connect the drive internally to a desktop PC ($3 delivered from ebay), or get a external usb enclosure to connect the drive to a laptop or pc so you can wipe it ($10 delivered from newegg). anything other than electronically wiping the drive only provides an illusion of protecting the data or is a process that is very costly (drive shredding or drive degausing). keeping the disk in a drawer for ever is not exactly a solution either.
From: Nate Nagel on 14 Jun 2010 20:03 On 06/13/2010 06:01 PM, Christopher Muto wrote: > Nate Nagel wrote: >> On 06/12/2010 05:25 PM, Christopher Muto wrote: >>> Nate Nagel wrote: >>>> On 06/12/2010 02:03 AM, Ben Myers wrote: >>>>> On 6/11/2010 8:39 PM, Nate Nagel wrote: >>>>>> subject says all... system is perfect except video card is dead. I >>>>>> already baked it once, and it died again less than a month later. Is >>>>>> there any inexpensive video card that will fit this laptop so I can >>>>>> pass >>>>>> it on to someone (I've already purchased a replacement) or should I >>>>>> just >>>>>> consign it to the junk pile? >>>>>> >>>>>> nate >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It all depends on the cost of a replacement graphics card. Some of the >>>>> 3rd party parts houses are selling them for over $200, your typical >>>>> unrealistic high price that corporate procurement departments and >>>>> government toilet seat purchasers are willing to pay. For me, the $200 >>>>> is probably not worth it. >>>>> >>>>> nVidia cards have the annoying habit for burning out. This may also be >>>>> exacerbated by the design of the air flow in the Precision M90. >>>>> >>>>> Whatever you do, do not junk it. At worst, gift it to a small >>>>> independent local repair shop. You can send it to me, and I'll pay the >>>>> shipping, but it really is worth more than that... Ben Myers >>>> >>>> If you're serious, would you be interested in the whole mess minus HDD >>>> (because I have no way of removing all personal files, passwords, etc. >>>> without booting it) but with a working d/dock or d/port? (bought them >>>> used and cheap off eBay because they work on both my work laptop and >>>> the M90, but now we're getting E-series laptops for work, the M90 is >>>> dead, and I replaced it with a Studio something or other which has no >>>> docking station connector.) It does not have the WUXGA screen but I do >>>> have a memory upgrade for it. I basically just need to clean out all >>>> my nonfunctional junk before my basement gets overrun with PC parts >>>> that I'm not using. >>>> >>>> I did a cursory search online, and found that all video cards listed >>>> to fit were in the $2-300 range, the Studio was smaller, lighter, >>>> $600, and had a full 1080p screen, the decision was easy. >>>> >>>> nate >>>> >>> >>> to wipe the drive download a free utility called boot and nuke. >>> http://www.dban.org/download >>> the download is an 'iso' file which is an image file of a bootable cd. >>> dell's with roxio 8 and above are able to open the iso file and burn it >>> to a cd. then boot the computer from the cd and follow the very simple >>> prompts to wipe the machine to department of defense standards... it is >>> very easy but does take considerable time to complete on large drives. >> >> Right... but I can't boot the machine because the video card is dead. >> otherwise I'd do a restore on it and then it'd even have an OS installed. >> >> nate >> > > not true. you can temporarily put the drive into another laptop ($0), or > get an adapter to connect the drive internally to a desktop PC ($3 > delivered from ebay), or get a external usb enclosure to connect the > drive to a laptop or pc so you can wipe it ($10 delivered from newegg). > anything other than electronically wiping the drive only provides an > illusion of protecting the data or is a process that is very costly > (drive shredding or drive degausing). keeping the disk in a drawer for > ever is not exactly a solution either. I could use it for backups... that would be useful and I figure if I'm giving away or practically giving away a busted laptop whoever gets it won't really care whether it does or doesn't have a completely blank HDD with it... nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel
From: Christopher Muto on 14 Jun 2010 21:30 Nate Nagel wrote: > On 06/13/2010 06:01 PM, Christopher Muto wrote: >> Nate Nagel wrote: >>> On 06/12/2010 05:25 PM, Christopher Muto wrote: >>>> Nate Nagel wrote: >>>>> On 06/12/2010 02:03 AM, Ben Myers wrote: >>>>>> On 6/11/2010 8:39 PM, Nate Nagel wrote: >>>>>>> subject says all... system is perfect except video card is dead. I >>>>>>> already baked it once, and it died again less than a month later. Is >>>>>>> there any inexpensive video card that will fit this laptop so I can >>>>>>> pass >>>>>>> it on to someone (I've already purchased a replacement) or should I >>>>>>> just >>>>>>> consign it to the junk pile? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> nate >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It all depends on the cost of a replacement graphics card. Some of >>>>>> the >>>>>> 3rd party parts houses are selling them for over $200, your typical >>>>>> unrealistic high price that corporate procurement departments and >>>>>> government toilet seat purchasers are willing to pay. For me, the >>>>>> $200 >>>>>> is probably not worth it. >>>>>> >>>>>> nVidia cards have the annoying habit for burning out. This may >>>>>> also be >>>>>> exacerbated by the design of the air flow in the Precision M90. >>>>>> >>>>>> Whatever you do, do not junk it. At worst, gift it to a small >>>>>> independent local repair shop. You can send it to me, and I'll pay >>>>>> the >>>>>> shipping, but it really is worth more than that... Ben Myers >>>>> >>>>> If you're serious, would you be interested in the whole mess minus HDD >>>>> (because I have no way of removing all personal files, passwords, etc. >>>>> without booting it) but with a working d/dock or d/port? (bought them >>>>> used and cheap off eBay because they work on both my work laptop and >>>>> the M90, but now we're getting E-series laptops for work, the M90 is >>>>> dead, and I replaced it with a Studio something or other which has no >>>>> docking station connector.) It does not have the WUXGA screen but I do >>>>> have a memory upgrade for it. I basically just need to clean out all >>>>> my nonfunctional junk before my basement gets overrun with PC parts >>>>> that I'm not using. >>>>> >>>>> I did a cursory search online, and found that all video cards listed >>>>> to fit were in the $2-300 range, the Studio was smaller, lighter, >>>>> $600, and had a full 1080p screen, the decision was easy. >>>>> >>>>> nate >>>>> >>>> >>>> to wipe the drive download a free utility called boot and nuke. >>>> http://www.dban.org/download >>>> the download is an 'iso' file which is an image file of a bootable cd. >>>> dell's with roxio 8 and above are able to open the iso file and burn it >>>> to a cd. then boot the computer from the cd and follow the very simple >>>> prompts to wipe the machine to department of defense standards... it is >>>> very easy but does take considerable time to complete on large drives. >>> >>> Right... but I can't boot the machine because the video card is dead. >>> otherwise I'd do a restore on it and then it'd even have an OS >>> installed. >>> >>> nate >>> >> >> not true. you can temporarily put the drive into another laptop ($0), or >> get an adapter to connect the drive internally to a desktop PC ($3 >> delivered from ebay), or get a external usb enclosure to connect the >> drive to a laptop or pc so you can wipe it ($10 delivered from newegg). >> anything other than electronically wiping the drive only provides an >> illusion of protecting the data or is a process that is very costly >> (drive shredding or drive degausing). keeping the disk in a drawer for >> ever is not exactly a solution either. > > I could use it for backups... that would be useful > > and I figure if I'm giving away or practically giving away a busted > laptop whoever gets it won't really care whether it does or doesn't have > a completely blank HDD with it... > > nate > i think that you miss my point. best of luck with whatever you choose to do.
From: Christopher Muto on 14 Jun 2010 21:33 Nate Nagel wrote: > On 06/13/2010 06:01 PM, Christopher Muto wrote: >> Nate Nagel wrote: >>> On 06/12/2010 05:25 PM, Christopher Muto wrote: >>>> Nate Nagel wrote: >>>>> On 06/12/2010 02:03 AM, Ben Myers wrote: >>>>>> On 6/11/2010 8:39 PM, Nate Nagel wrote: >>>>>>> subject says all... system is perfect except video card is dead. I >>>>>>> already baked it once, and it died again less than a month later. Is >>>>>>> there any inexpensive video card that will fit this laptop so I can >>>>>>> pass >>>>>>> it on to someone (I've already purchased a replacement) or should I >>>>>>> just >>>>>>> consign it to the junk pile? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> nate >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It all depends on the cost of a replacement graphics card. Some of >>>>>> the >>>>>> 3rd party parts houses are selling them for over $200, your typical >>>>>> unrealistic high price that corporate procurement departments and >>>>>> government toilet seat purchasers are willing to pay. For me, the >>>>>> $200 >>>>>> is probably not worth it. >>>>>> >>>>>> nVidia cards have the annoying habit for burning out. This may >>>>>> also be >>>>>> exacerbated by the design of the air flow in the Precision M90. >>>>>> >>>>>> Whatever you do, do not junk it. At worst, gift it to a small >>>>>> independent local repair shop. You can send it to me, and I'll pay >>>>>> the >>>>>> shipping, but it really is worth more than that... Ben Myers >>>>> >>>>> If you're serious, would you be interested in the whole mess minus HDD >>>>> (because I have no way of removing all personal files, passwords, etc. >>>>> without booting it) but with a working d/dock or d/port? (bought them >>>>> used and cheap off eBay because they work on both my work laptop and >>>>> the M90, but now we're getting E-series laptops for work, the M90 is >>>>> dead, and I replaced it with a Studio something or other which has no >>>>> docking station connector.) It does not have the WUXGA screen but I do >>>>> have a memory upgrade for it. I basically just need to clean out all >>>>> my nonfunctional junk before my basement gets overrun with PC parts >>>>> that I'm not using. >>>>> >>>>> I did a cursory search online, and found that all video cards listed >>>>> to fit were in the $2-300 range, the Studio was smaller, lighter, >>>>> $600, and had a full 1080p screen, the decision was easy. >>>>> >>>>> nate >>>>> >>>> >>>> to wipe the drive download a free utility called boot and nuke. >>>> http://www.dban.org/download >>>> the download is an 'iso' file which is an image file of a bootable cd. >>>> dell's with roxio 8 and above are able to open the iso file and burn it >>>> to a cd. then boot the computer from the cd and follow the very simple >>>> prompts to wipe the machine to department of defense standards... it is >>>> very easy but does take considerable time to complete on large drives. >>> >>> Right... but I can't boot the machine because the video card is dead. >>> otherwise I'd do a restore on it and then it'd even have an OS >>> installed. >>> >>> nate >>> >> >> not true. you can temporarily put the drive into another laptop ($0), or >> get an adapter to connect the drive internally to a desktop PC ($3 >> delivered from ebay), or get a external usb enclosure to connect the >> drive to a laptop or pc so you can wipe it ($10 delivered from newegg). >> anything other than electronically wiping the drive only provides an >> illusion of protecting the data or is a process that is very costly >> (drive shredding or drive degausing). keeping the disk in a drawer for >> ever is not exactly a solution either. > > I could use it for backups... that would be useful > > and I figure if I'm giving away or practically giving away a busted > laptop whoever gets it won't really care whether it does or doesn't have > a completely blank HDD with it... > > nate > http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/ghana804/video/video_index.html
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