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From: Clark F Morris on 17 May 2010 14:39
On 17 May 2010 09:19:57 -0000, Kulin Remailer <remailer(a)reece.net.au>
wrote:

>> The whole thing gets murkier. Hercules can legally be used to run
>> z/Linux or any of the public domain versions of MVS and VM. IBM seems
>> to be unwilling to license z/OS to run on emulated (Intel) hardware
>> and there was quite a row when a company tried to get this to happen
>> (Fundamental I think). While MVS was licensed on various clones, none
>> of them have survived to the 64 bit era so far as I know.
>
>You're mixing a few things in the same pot that should not be mixed. When
>IBM released MVS 3.8 and VM R6 to the public domain (they're 35 year old
>products, btw) they released them to the public domain. Hercules or not
>Hercules is not relevant. The software is in the public domain.
>
>I have not seen where IBM say it is ok to run z/Linux on Hercules. Do you
>have any links?

While I don't have any links without looking it up, z/Linux was done
under standard Linux terms and conditions. If I get really curious I
will search the IBM web-site.
>
>> The discussion on z/OS on non-z machines through emulation is related
>> to the discussion about the high cost of COBOL compilers for
>> developers. In both cases the high cost of a development platform
>> impedes small developers. The original question about legally running
>> z/OS under Hercules (which does have a 64 bit emulation) was in part
>> because if the person is doing it legally, a number of people want to
>> know how.
>
>I agree with the first part of what you wrote and disagree with the last
>part. Yes, IBM has blocked the individual and small operation from
>participating in developing for z/OS except in some very specific and
>limited circumstances. The last part of what you wrote is disingenuous.
>Everybody knows there is no legal way to run z/OS on anything but IBM
>hardware. But there has been no enforcement.
>
>So either help, or get out of the way!
>
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