11-year old "engineer" needs counseling
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From: Jan Panteltje on 19 Jan 2010 07:23 On a sunny day (Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:55:12 +0530) it happened "pimpom" <pimpom(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in <hj3tpo$bf1$1(a)news.albasani.net>: It's a perennial source of frustration for me >because 9 out of 10 of my emails are unanswered. But that is normal!
From: osr on 19 Jan 2010 10:42 I judged a district level (3 counties) science fair for many years. I stopped a year after they stopped allowing students to bring the actual hardware they built. I offered to assemble team of engineers and techs and professors to inspect gear at the door, but was declined. Was told by a mindless admin idiot with no OJT experience that we could not possible know all the hazards. I laughed, then cried inside. I was responsible for a graduate level lab with lasers, rad sources, chemicals, biological stuff, and electronics at the time. Asking a 7th or 8th grader to do a totally written presentation was often a disaster. It basically stopped most 6th graders from coming. I know this is sad, but there are still developmental differences in learning and presentation skills at that level. The 6th graders just read note cards.... It was sad. That didn't stop me from mentoring kids for the science fair, although I did get really ticked when told the electron microscope was a potential x-ray and HV hazard and I should not allow the high school kids near it. 13 million dollar microscopes, installed below ground,, do NOT feature hazards...... Hum, that room was BELOW local background levels. One of these days, all these anti-access fairies are going to find themselves in a world that no one knows how to repair or restart...... "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Clark... Steve Roberts
From: Jim Thompson on 19 Jan 2010 10:49 On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:42:34 -0800 (PST), osr(a)uakron.edu wrote: >I judged a district level (3 counties) science fair for many years. I >stopped a year after they stopped allowing students to bring the >actual hardware they built. I offered to assemble team of engineers >and techs and professors to inspect gear at the door, but was >declined. Was told by a mindless admin idiot with no OJT experience >that we could not possible know all the hazards. I laughed, then >cried inside. I was responsible for a graduate level lab with lasers, >rad sources, chemicals, biological stuff, and electronics at the >time. > >Asking a 7th or 8th grader to do a totally written presentation was >often a disaster. It basically stopped most 6th graders from coming. I >know this is sad, but there are still developmental differences in >learning and presentation skills at that level. The 6th graders just >read note cards.... It was sad. > >That didn't stop me from mentoring kids for the science fair, although >I did get really ticked when told the electron microscope was a >potential x-ray and HV hazard and I should not allow the high school >kids near it. 13 million dollar microscopes, installed below ground,, >do NOT feature hazards...... Hum, that room was BELOW local >background levels. > >One of these days, all these anti-access fairies are going to find >themselves in a world that no one knows how to repair or >restart...... > >"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from >magic." Clark... > >Steve Roberts We're heading into a world of "science by consensus"... "reality" determined by politicians :-( But look on the positive side: A big meteorite will be heading our way, and the "consensus" will attempt to divert it... and fail... and the earth will be rebooted ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: Michael A. Terrell on 19 Jan 2010 11:02 Jim Thompson wrote: > > We're heading into a world of "science by consensus"... "reality" > determined by politicians :-( You forgot 'Advertising' > But look on the positive side: A big meteorite will be heading our > way, and the "consensus" will attempt to divert it... and fail... and > the earth will be rebooted ;-) Have you seen those stupid 'Progresso Soup' commercials with their soup can phones and loose string? Even 'knuckle dragging marketing types' should have learned that won't work, by the time they were 10 years old. -- Greed is the root of all eBay.
From: pimpom on 19 Jan 2010 11:10
Jan Panteltje wrote: > On a sunny day (Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:55:12 +0530) it happened > "pimpom" > <pimpom(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in > <hj3tpo$bf1$1(a)news.albasani.net>: > It's a perennial source of frustration for me >> because 9 out of 10 of my emails are unanswered. > > But that is normal! Do you mean to say that that's the way it is everywhere else, and not just in India? That hasn't been my experience. I've needed to contact individuals, small companies and large corporations in other countries from time to time, by email and by snail mail before internet access was available here. Most of the time, it's for information rather than anything they could profit from. 9 times out of 10, my queries were answered promptly, courteously and to the point. |