From: recoder on 6 Apr 2010 09:27 I need to find what x would be in 3^x = 1 mod (p) where p is a prime? Can we express x in terms of p? Thanks in advance...
From: Dan on 6 Apr 2010 09:52 On Apr 6, 9:27 am, recoder <kurtulmeh...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I need to find what x would be in 3^x = 1 mod (p) where p is a prime? > Can we express x in terms of p? > > Thanks in advance... x = 0 (mod p-1) gives a subset of the set of all solutions, by Fermat's Little Theorem. There's a conjecture that x = 0 (mod p-1) gives the full set of solutions for infinitely many (but nevertheless, not that many) p: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artin%27s_conjecture_on_primitive_roots
From: Chip Eastham on 6 Apr 2010 10:11 On Apr 6, 9:52 am, Dan <dbri...(a)mit.edu> wrote: > On Apr 6, 9:27 am, recoder <kurtulmeh...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > I need to find what x would be in 3^x = 1 mod (p) where p is a prime? > > Can we express x in terms of p? > > > Thanks in advance... > > x = 0 (mod p-1) gives a subset of the set of all solutions, by > Fermat's Little Theorem. > > There's a conjecture that x = 0 (mod p-1) gives the full set of > solutions for infinitely many (but nevertheless, not that many) p: >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artin%27s_conjecture_on_primitive_roots Consider for example 3^x = 1 mod 7. Per Fermat's Little Theorem, 3^6 = 1 mod 7, and in fact x = 6 is the smallest positive integer solution. However 3^7 = 1 mod 1093, showing that as Dan implies above, the smallest exponent can be a proper divisor of p-1. regards, chip
From: recoder on 6 Apr 2010 10:58 On 6 Nisan, 17:11, Chip Eastham <hardm...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 6, 9:52 am, Dan <dbri...(a)mit.edu> wrote: > > > On Apr 6, 9:27 am, recoder <kurtulmeh...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I need to find what x would be in 3^x = 1 mod (p) where p is a prime? > > > Can we express x in terms of p? > > > > Thanks in advance... > > > x = 0 (mod p-1) gives a subset of the set of all solutions, by > > Fermat's Little Theorem. > > > There's a conjecture that x = 0 (mod p-1) gives the full set of > > solutions for infinitely many (but nevertheless, not that many) p: > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artin%27s_conjecture_on_primitive_roots > > Consider for example 3^x = 1 mod 7. > Per Fermat's Little Theorem, > 3^6 = 1 mod 7, and in fact x = 6 is > the smallest positive integer solution. > > However 3^7 = 1 mod 1093, showing that > as Dan implies above, the smallest > exponent can be a proper divisor of p-1. > > regards, chip Thanks a lot. I wonder if there is a solution for 3^x = y mod (p) where y= 2^z and z is integer.
From: Pubkeybreaker on 6 Apr 2010 11:19 On Apr 6, 9:27 am, recoder <kurtulmeh...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I need to find what x would be in 3^x = 1 mod (p) where p is a prime? > Can we express x in terms of p? > > Thanks in advance... All you can is that x will be a divisor of p-1 (via Lagrange's Thm)
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