From: life imitates life on
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:31:28 -0800, Fred Abse
<excretatauris(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:49:02 -0800, life imitates life wrote:
>
>> Try hunting up Lindstrom on ebay if you want the absolute best Swiss
>> steel hand tools. Not cheap.
>
>Swedish.


Oh. It comes from one of those "over there" countries. That one that
does all the watches. Or maybe a neighbor...

The fact that they use ball bearing steel is pretty cool. One would
think that some dope over here would make such a choice.

If I made hand tools, I would. It is a shame that Greenlee or Klein
doesn't have a fine tools category.
From: life imitates life on
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:31:28 -0800, Fred Abse
<excretatauris(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:54:40 -0800, life imitates life wrote:
>
>> The Lindstroms are worth the extra outlay if a long term, personal tool
>> is desired. For a production level, multi-user tool, the lower quality
>> steel, shorter life span brands are cheaper and are the better value for
>> such a setting. It just depends on who the tool is for, how well they
>> take care of their tools, and the term you wish the tool to last for.
>
>I've got Lindstroms that I've had 30 years. Look their age, but still work
>as good as ever. The newer ones aren't as good, IMHO.
>
>Golden rule: Never, under any circumstances, lend cutters to *anyone*.
>Never let them out of your sight / control.


Well, ALL the techs and engineers in our labs have enough brains to
know that they are for copper, and if they want other than that, there
are plenty of cheap ones around. Then again... I guess there are a
couple that do not think about such things.

I still dislike working with folks that are oblivious to the details of
life around them. The same kind of people that think they have it
together enough to yack on the phone while driving.
From: Dave Plowman (News) on
In article <pan.2010.02.11.09.05.53.812957(a)invalid.invalid>,
Fred Abse <excretatauris(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Golden rule: Never, under any circumstances, lend cutters to *anyone*.
> Never let them out of your sight / control.

Most will have several pairs of cutters. Of varying sizes. Electrician's
size tend to cost rather less than instrument ones because they are made
in larger quantities. I would happily lend out my Lindstroms to someone
who knew what they were. Others would get a pair of my cheaper
electricians ones. Lidl in the UK do some very good and cheap tools -
ideal for this sort of thing. The cutters I bought from them will cut
piano wire without damage - a good test. And cost several times less than
branded ones which won't.

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Dave Plowman dave(a)davenoise.co.uk London SW
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From: Dave Plowman (News) on
In article <3gttkt.5qe.17.6(a)news.alt.net>,
Meat Plow wrote:
> > The Lindstroms are worth the extra outlay if a long term, personal tool
> >is desired. For a production level, multi-user tool, the lower quality
> >steel, shorter life span brands are cheaper and are the better value for
> >such a setting. It just depends on who the tool is for, how well they
> >take care of their tools, and the term you wish the tool to last for.

> Never heard of Lindstrom

Fairly well known as the 'Rolls Royce' of cutters etc. But debatable if
they are worth the cost. If you're only doing the things those cutters
were designed for, like snipping copper leads, cheaper ones treated as
disposable can be fine. And use a 'disposed' of pair for the things that
could damage the good ones.

But I do have some Lindstrom tools.

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Dave Plowman dave(a)davenoise.co.uk London SW
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From: Geoffrey S. Mendelson on
Fred Abse wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:49:03 +0000, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
>
>> That in my humble opionion is just plain silly. If you refuse to lend people
>> tools when they ask, they wait until you are not looking and borrow them
>> anyway.
>
> They get fired!

That only works if:

1. You are high enough up the food chain to do anything about it.

2. Have less invested in them than the tools.

Maybe a small company with a few employees of no particular skills, but
in the real world?

Geoff.


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