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From: Greegor on 16 Feb 2010 12:16
On Feb 16, 7:13 am, "Wild_Bill" wrote:
WB > [...] There's no need, or point for any typical
WB > hostile anarchist replies. I don't play these games.

That's an interesting take on this "life imitates life" nym shifter.
It would explain the "Always Wrong" moniker though!

I wonder if in real life he's really the
angry radicalized sociopathic misfit
he appears to be on usenet...

From: life imitates life on 16 Feb 2010 09:46
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:13:30 -0500, "Wild_Bill"
<wb_wildbill(a)XSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

>Cotter pins, safety lockwire, steel fence wire and various other steel wire
>products are routinely cut with hand tool diagonal cutters or wire cutters
>that are not specifically made for copper or aluminum only.
>Many quality wiring pliers/crimpers/strippers include screw cutters, that
>cut steel screws without any damage to the tool.


I have a pair of twister pliers for lock wire. They are not actually
meant to be use to CUT the wire either, even though they have side
cutters incorporated into them. Any monkey knows how to flex fracture
wire that uses a medium that work hardens. That is the right way to
"cut" lock wire. In fact, one is supposed to use the side cutter to
simply score the wire a bit, and then the number of flexes is reduced to
just a few.
From: life imitates life on 16 Feb 2010 16:55
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:29:59 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave(a)davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

>Don't use 'all purpose tools. You really should walk past that pound shop.
>
It was an example of the mechanism, dipshit. It has nothing to do with
the tool suggested to examine for a dippy twit like you to understand the
concept by.
From: Ban on 17 Feb 2010 03:48
Wild_Bill wrote:
> I'm not playing this game, but you're entirely incorrect that there
> are no hand tool cutters that are capable of, or intended to
> withstand the cutting forces of steel.
>
> Cotter pins, safety lockwire, steel fence wire and various other
> steel wire products are routinely cut with hand tool diagonal cutters
> or wire cutters that are not specifically made for copper or aluminum
> only. Many quality wiring pliers/crimpers/strippers include screw cutters,
> that cut steel screws without any damage to the tool.
>
> The cutters don't have to be big Channelock, Klein or other
> industrial duty models.
> I have miniature cutters that I've cut steel wire with for many years
> without damage, and have also been used to cut small springs. The
> cutting edges are unharmed.
>
> My Channelock side cutters and several other wire cutters I own have
> cut lots of nails, been used to pull nails and large steel staples,
> even at the tips of the cutting edges, without damage to the tools.
> I don't try to cut drywall screws with them, or twist drills, or
> endmills. They still cut stranded or solid copper wire and cables
> just fine, and nylon cord or steel coat hanger wire or any other
> materials that I need them to cut, essentially like they were still
> new.
> The only attention that these cutters and pliers have needed in many
> years of use, is an occasional 1 or 2 drops of oil at the hinge, and
> proper storage.
>

right, I have here a pair of wirecutters made by Belzer (Titan2000) which I
bought in '86. Sill perfect with a small spring that keeps the cut wires
from flying into your eyes.
ciao Ban


From: Dave Plowman (News) on 17 Feb 2010 04:41
In article <115mn5ls4jgr19tfso5q2ou64u3c42u8s8(a)4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
> >Don't use 'all purpose tools. You really should walk past that pound
> >shop.
> >
> It was an example of the mechanism, dipshit. It has nothing to do with
> the tool suggested to examine for a dippy twit like you to understand the
> concept by.

Think you're the one who needs to understand basic engineering principles.
And actually get some hands on experience before spouting your rubbish.

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Dave Plowman dave(a)davenoise.co.uk London SW
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