From: santosh on
Bodhi wrote:
> Wolfgang Kern wrote:
> > Please Rene,
> >
> > don't feed the obvious trolls.
> >
>
> Now Wolfy,
>
> What a shame. If you had only said "don't feed the trolls", then
> perhaps I might have been convinced that you truly believed it. But, you
> exposed yourself by including the word "obvious", as if you were
> desperately trying to coerce yourself into believing it.

Err, so calling you a troll is fine, but calling you an obvious troll
is not??

> Besides, it's a natural response for anyone when their credibility
> has been questioned by someone from the "opposing team". It's a purely
> typical behavioural pattern given those circumstances.

Wolfgang's credibility, as far as programming is concerned, as never
been under question.

<snip>

> But anyway, you can resort to calling me any name you wish. That's
> not important to me. What is important to me is that you are aware that
> I can see right through your pretentiousness, and that I recognize the
> true motives behind each and every one of your actions here in a.l.a.

Wow, talk about calling others "pretentious"!

> Now, please return to discussing anything pertaining to Assembly
> Language. After all, that's why we're here.

Where's your contribution to assembly language discussion since you
started posting here?

> And be sure and have a wonderful day, ;)

Thanks. Same to you.

From: Rod Pemberton on

"Betov" <betov(a)free.fr> wrote in message
news:XnF98E4D790BD1E9betovfreefr(a)212.27.60.39...
> michael1353135(a)yahoo.com �crivait news:1172604343.761443.176450
> A license choice is all about ethic and
> nothing about time. If you have no ethical concerns, time will
> never buy you any, and there is absolutely nothing to be discussed
> about licensing: It is GPL or Anti-GPL. Period.
>

I find that to be a really odd statement for two reasons. First, Public
Domain software (no longer copyrighted or not copyrighted) gives one all the
rights of GPL software and a bunch more. So, how can Public Domain software
which isn't GPL'd be Anti-GPL? Second, the GPL requires that you forfit
your copyrights for any changes or modifications to the original author who,
under the GPL, is the sole copyright possessor (again, this includes
contributions by others) and has the right to close the source at any time
he/she wishes. This means that one individual can release a small snippet
of code, have hundreds of others turn it into a professional quality
application free of charge, and then take it private, i.e., no longer
release the code under the GPL - since it's the original copyright holder
who possesses all the legal rights to distribution and licensing, have a
commercial programming house polish it up a bit, and sell it commercially
for a profit. You need to go reread the GPL licensing FAQ. Make sure you
"read between the lines" this time.


Rod Pemberton


From: Betov on
"Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have(a)bitfoad.cmm> �crivait
news:es3gts$n40$1(a)aioe.org:

> First, Public
> Domain software (no longer copyrighted or not copyrighted) gives one
> all the rights of GPL software and a bunch more. So, how can Public
> Domain software which isn't GPL'd be Anti-GPL? Second, the GPL
> requires that you forfit your copyrights for any changes or
> modifications to the original author who, under the GPL, is the sole
> copyright possessor (again, this includes contributions by others) and
> has the right to close the source at any time he/she wishes. This
> means that one individual can release a small snippet of code, have
> hundreds of others turn it into a professional quality application
> free of charge, and then take it private, i.e., no longer release the
> code under the GPL - since it's the original copyright holder who
> possesses all the legal rights to distribution and licensing, have a
> commercial programming house polish it up a bit, and sell it
> commercially for a profit. You need to go reread the GPL licensing
> FAQ. Make sure you "read between the lines" this time.

Feel free to tag me as a GPL integrist. PD existed since
the earlier days of the computers and never were any thread
for the Crime&Co.

If you fail to understand why and how, the GPL is a war for
freedom against the Crime&Co, it would be utterly useless
for me to try to explain anything.


Betov.

< http://rosasm.org >



From: Bodhi on
santosh wrote:
> Bodhi wrote:
>> Wolfgang Kern wrote:
>>> Please Rene,
>>>
>>> don't feed the obvious trolls.
>>>
>> Now Wolfy,
>>
>> What a shame. If you had only said "don't feed the trolls", then
>> perhaps I might have been convinced that you truly believed it. But, you
>> exposed yourself by including the word "obvious", as if you were
>> desperately trying to coerce yourself into believing it.
>
> Err, so calling you a troll is fine, but calling you an obvious troll
> is not??
>
>> Besides, it's a natural response for anyone when their credibility
>> has been questioned by someone from the "opposing team". It's a purely
>> typical behavioural pattern given those circumstances.
>
> Wolfgang's credibility, as far as programming is concerned, as never
> been under question.
>
> <snip>
>
>> But anyway, you can resort to calling me any name you wish. That's
>> not important to me. What is important to me is that you are aware that
>> I can see right through your pretentiousness, and that I recognize the
>> true motives behind each and every one of your actions here in a.l.a.
>
> Wow, talk about calling others "pretentious"!
>
>> Now, please return to discussing anything pertaining to Assembly
>> Language. After all, that's why we're here.
>
> Where's your contribution to assembly language discussion since you
> started posting here?
>
>> And be sure and have a wonderful day, ;)
>
> Thanks. Same to you.
>

Why do you remind me of a yapping little Mexican Chihuahua ?

From: rhyde on
On Feb 27, 4:29 am, michael1353...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> 64bit beta version now includes
>
> Pre-emptive multitasking, multithreading, ring-3 protection
> Responsive GUI with resolutions up to 1280x1024, 16 million colours
> IDE: Editor/Assembler for applications
> TCP/IP stack with Loopback & Ethernet drivers
> Network applications include ftp/http clients
> Free-form application windows
>
> www.menuetos.net


Congrats on all the great work!
I would have, however, jumped the version number up to 0.64 :-)
Cheers,
Randy Hyde