From: Eeyore on


Joerg wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
> > Joerg wrote:
> >> TT_Man wrote:
> >>> Anyone using this part experiencing problems? we have used them for 4 years
> >>> or so. Date codes up to 0705 work ok, 0814 misbehaves....same chip, same
> >>> software, 0814 doesn't execute properly...
> >> Did you check the POR situation? Maybe issue a nice long POR and see if
> >> it'll run?
> >>
> >> The POR circuit on most 8051 is %^&#!! <tantrum censored> so I always
> >> rolled my own. As for BOR, I think many uC designers don't know what
> >> that means ...
> >
> > I think Atmel actually do an app note on that.
>
> When it comes to POR/BOR I do not trust manufacturers much. Learned some
> hard lesson in life.

Care to share ?

Graham

From: Eeyore on


Rich Grise wrote:

> If I could get an 8051 equivalent but with Motorola's timer system (see
> 68HC11, e.g.), I'd be in hog heaven. ;-)

What's so great about Motorola's timers ?

Graham

From: Robert Baer on
TT_Man wrote:

> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:48BF4043.AE375BE5(a)hotmail.com...
>
>>
>>TT_Man wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Anyone using this part experiencing problems? we have used them for 4
>>>years
>>>or so. Date codes up to 0705 work ok, 0814 misbehaves....same chip, same
>>>software, 0814 doesn't execute properly...
>>
>>Have you contacted the manufacturer ?
>>
>>Graham
>>
>>
>
> Yes, that was my first port of call, with full details, source code etc.and
> an indication of the approximate area of failure, within 10 lines of
> code......
>
>
*Within* 10 lines of code? Not more specific? Probably "C" code...
From: Eeyore on


Robert Baer wrote:

> TT_Man wrote:
> > "Eeyore" wrote
> >>TT_Man wrote:
> >>
> >>>Anyone using this part experiencing problems? we have used them for 4
> >>>years or so. Date codes up to 0705 work ok, 0814 misbehaves....same chip,
> same
> >>>software, 0814 doesn't execute properly...
> >>
> >>Have you contacted the manufacturer ?
> >
> > Yes, that was my first port of call, with full details, source code etc.and
> > an indication of the approximate area of failure, within 10 lines of
> > code......
>
> *Within* 10 lines of code? Not more specific? Probably "C" code...

I thought he said assembler going back yonks. Which you would have thought ought
to make it easy to find.

Graham


From: Spehro Pefhany on
On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:33:14 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>Rich Grise wrote:
>
>> If I could get an 8051 equivalent but with Motorola's timer system (see
>> 68HC11, e.g.), I'd be in hog heaven. ;-)
>
>What's so great about Motorola's timers ?
>
>Graham

Much better designed.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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