From: John Larkin on
On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:11:48 -0800 (PST), Bret Cahill
<BretCahill(a)peoplepc.com> wrote:

>> > A study on intellectual property was published a couple years
>> > ago.
>> > You'll find similar results in other western countries.
>>
>> > The top 4 cities are in the 3 bluest of the blue states. �No
>> > need to
>> > even mention names because everyone on the planet knows the 4
>> > cities.
>>
>> American arrogance at its finest - or worst. I'm a non-American,
>> fairly knowledgeable about the world outside my own country. I
>> could hazard a guess as to which 4 US cities you mean, but I sure
>> as hell don't _know_.
>
>NY, SF, LA, Boston.
>
>I can't remember one of the cities, maybe Atlanta or Chicago.
>
>
>Bret Cahill
>

I wonder what kind of IP is being generated by NY, SF, LA, and Boston.
Web apps maybe? Abstract art? Those places sure aren't doing serious
electronics, aviation, industrial, or even software design. Some
biotech, maybe.

I live in San Francisco, and I know that there's not much hard
technology development going on here. Lots of finance, lawyers,
"arts", web app developers, tourism, restaurants, wannabe novelists,
and homeless services. Not much that's real, very little that creates
useful IP.

That makes sense: lefties are almost always fuzzy thinkers, and real
businesses locate in friendlier climes.

John

From: John Larkin on
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:09:57 -0500, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote:

>On 2/7/2010 1:12 AM, Jasen Betts wrote:
>> On 2010-02-07, Bret Cahill<BretCahill(a)peoplepc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There's something about agriculture that encourages invention.
>>
>> Monotony I expect.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news(a)netfront.net ---
>
>Nah, mostly poverty and isolation. You have to get the job done, or the
>crops fail and you lose your farm. Puts a premium on being able to keep
>things working and to improvise.
>
>A recent issue of IEEE Spectrum had an article about the power plant
>engineers in Gaza restarting their plant by collecting almost 200 car
>batteries. Same deal, different situation.
>
>Cheers
>
>Phil Hobbs

Framing is very competitive; you live or die by crop yield. The few
farmers I've known were very intelligent and very versatile and did
pretty well. They would weld up a new tractor part in the morning and
expand their network of wireless soil moisture sensors in the
afternoon. One farmer I still know has a day job as a chemist for
Chevron, and is really, really rich. My first daddy-in-law was a Cajun
sugar cane farmer in Lousiana and left a tidy estate to my older
daughter, the only grandkid he really liked.

Most farmers are cool dudes.

John

From: Rod Speed on
John Larkin wrote
> Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote
>> Jasen Betts wrote
>>> Bret Cahill<BretCahill(a)peoplepc.com> wrote

>>>> There's something about agriculture that encourages invention.

>>> Monotony I expect.

>> Nah, mostly poverty and isolation. You have to get the job
>> done, or the crops fail and you lose your farm. Puts a premium
>> on being able to keep things working and to improvise.

>> A recent issue of IEEE Spectrum had an article about the power plant
>> engineers in Gaza restarting their plant by collecting almost 200 car
>> batteries. Same deal, different situation.

> Framing is very competitive; you live or die by crop yield.

Nope, you hardly ever die from it.

> The few farmers I've known were very intelligent
> and very versatile and did pretty well.

You clearly dont know very many of them. Some
are complete duds as any real farmer will tell you.

> They would weld up a new tractor part in the morning and
> expand their network of wireless soil moisture sensors in the
> afternoon. One farmer I still know has a day job as a chemist
> for Chevron, and is really, really rich. My first daddy-in-law
> was a Cajun sugar cane farmer in Lousiana and left a tidy
> estate to my older daughter, the only grandkid he really liked.

> Most farmers are cool dudes.

Some of them are complete duds, just like in any field.


From: Rod Speed on
Phil Hobbs wrote:
> On 2/7/2010 1:37 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
> <snip>
>> Utterly mangled all over again.
>>
>>
> Troll alert. You're hereby put on a diet.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.


From: John Larkin on
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 05:50:54 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>John Larkin wrote
>> Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote
>>> Jasen Betts wrote
>>>> Bret Cahill<BretCahill(a)peoplepc.com> wrote
>
>>>>> There's something about agriculture that encourages invention.
>
>>>> Monotony I expect.
>
>>> Nah, mostly poverty and isolation. You have to get the job
>>> done, or the crops fail and you lose your farm. Puts a premium
>>> on being able to keep things working and to improvise.
>
>>> A recent issue of IEEE Spectrum had an article about the power plant
>>> engineers in Gaza restarting their plant by collecting almost 200 car
>>> batteries. Same deal, different situation.
>
>> Framing is very competitive; you live or die by crop yield.
>
>Nope, you hardly ever die from it.
>
>> The few farmers I've known were very intelligent
>> and very versatile and did pretty well.
>
>You clearly dont know very many of them. Some
>are complete duds as any real farmer will tell you.
>
>> They would weld up a new tractor part in the morning and
>> expand their network of wireless soil moisture sensors in the
>> afternoon. One farmer I still know has a day job as a chemist
>> for Chevron, and is really, really rich. My first daddy-in-law
>> was a Cajun sugar cane farmer in Lousiana and left a tidy
>> estate to my older daughter, the only grandkid he really liked.
>
>> Most farmers are cool dudes.
>
>Some of them are complete duds, just like in any field.
>

But being self-employed, the duds tend to go out of the farming
business, unless the government is paying them to not grow corn. Even
I could learn how to not grow corn.

Compare to business, industry, and politics where there are lots of
duds with job security. Especially unionized duds.

John