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From: Sam Wormley on 20 May 2010 20:10 A Convenient Falsehood: Global Warming Is a Hoax* Bob Hansen's presentation at the French National Assembly http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/2010/May2010_FrenchNationalAssembly.pdf 18 May, 2010
From: dannas on 20 May 2010 20:29 "Sam Wormley" <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:l4GdnWx_0K8SUmjWnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d(a)mchsi.com... >A Convenient Falsehood: Global Warming Is a Hoax* > > Bob Hansen's presentation at the French National Assembly > http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/2010/May2010_FrenchNationalAssembly.pdf > > 18 May, 2010 man, that presentation is full of conjecture and falsehoods. shameful, simply shameful. The graphs are totally misleading, as they are averages out of very high variance data. Why spray water on baby picture near the end ? saps.
From: Surfer on 21 May 2010 00:39 On Thu, 20 May 2010 19:10:54 -0500, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >A Convenient Falsehood: Global Warming Is a Hoax* > >Bob Hansen's presentation at the French National Assembly > http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/2010/May2010_FrenchNationalAssembly.pdf > > 18 May, 2010 Here is some additional information. Arctic sea ice extent is decreasing (See graph at right) http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/ Larger image here http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/n_plot_hires.pn Global sea level rise has accelerated http://climate.nasa.gov/keyIndicators/ Sea level rise is associated with the thermal expansion of sea water due to climate warming and widespread melting of land ice. The average rate of sea level rise has increased as follows: 1870 - 1990 1.7 mm/year 1993 - 2010 3.26 mm/year Giant Antarctic glacier is thinning http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090814100105.htm In addition: The global lower troposphere temperature anomaly is increasing http://images.intellicast.com/App_Images/Article/125_2.gif http://www.john-daly.com/nasa.gif This above graphs show that since 1995 the fluctuations lie almost entirely above the zero axis, whereas several decades ago they were evenly balanced above and below the axis.
From: Steady Eddy on 21 May 2010 00:56 On May 20, 9:39 pm, Surfer <n...(a)spam.net> wrote: > On Thu, 20 May 2010 19:10:54 -0500, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > >A Convenient Falsehood: Global Warming Is a Hoax* > > >Bob Hansen's presentation at the French National Assembly > > http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/2010/May2010_FrenchNationalAssembly.pdf > > > 18 May, 2010 > > Here is some additional information. > > Arctic sea ice extent is decreasing > (See graph at right)http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/ > Larger image herehttp://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/n_plot_hires.pn > > Global sea level rise has acceleratedhttp://climate.nasa.gov/keyIndicators/ > > Sea level rise is associated with the thermal expansion of sea water > due to climate warming and widespread melting of land ice. > The average rate of sea level rise has increased as follows: > > 1870 - 1990 1.7 mm/year > 1993 - 2010 3.26 mm/year > > Giant Antarctic glacier is thinninghttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090814100105.htm > > In addition: > > The global lower troposphere temperature anomaly is increasinghttp://images.intellicast.com/App_Images/Article/125_2.gifhttp://www.john-daly.com/nasa.gif > > This above graphs show that since 1995 the fluctuations lie almost > entirely above the zero axis, whereas several decades ago they were > evenly balanced above and below the axis. How did they measure the 1.7 mm per year? How did they measure sea level in 1890? Frankly I doubt the methodology. There is no such thing as the thermal expansion of the ocen. Because water does not expand when it is heated. in the range of 32 to 86 F. Most ocean water falls into that range. This case is closed
From: Benj on 21 May 2010 02:01
On May 21, 12:39 am, Surfer <n...(a)spam.net> wrote: > Here is some additional information. > > Arctic sea ice extent is decreasing > (See graph at right)http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/ > Larger image herehttp://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/n_plot_hires.pn Yes, Ice and glaciers have been decreasing. Graph goes back at least 1800. Did you get the memo? The ice age is over! > Global sea level rise has acceleratedhttp://climate.nasa.gov/keyIndicators/ > > Sea level rise is associated with the thermal expansion of sea water > due to climate warming and widespread melting of land ice. > The average rate of sea level rise has increased as follows: > > 1870 - 1990 1.7 mm/year > 1993 - 2010 3.26 mm/year HIGHLY suspect data brought to you by the same people who "lost" the priceless data and images of mankind's first trip to the moon! Satellite data for last period show NO change from previous recent periods and NO change since before industrial revolution. > Giant Antarctic glacier is thinninghttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090814100105.htm Probably. See Ice age memo. > In addition: > > The global lower troposphere temperature anomaly is increasinghttp://images.intellicast.com/App_Images/Article/125_2.gifhttp://www.john-daly.com/nasa.gif > > This above graphs show that since 1995 the fluctuations lie almost > entirely above the zero axis, whereas several decades ago they were > evenly balanced above and below the axis. Interesting graph. Of course the KEY item which you made the mistake of including is the effect of volcanic eruptions. Note how "blue" areas coincide with large vulcanism. Note how the recent red area has NO volcanic cooling to pull the graph down. Duh. And note that NONE of this data substantiates the bogus claim that CO2 as a greenhouse gas can have ANY significant effect on global temperature. It can't. It's a lie. It's a scam designed to grab trillions of "cap and trade" dollars. One might as well "bounce a basketball" to save the planet! It'll be great! Lots of action to show you really CARE about the planet! Lots of media coverage to "educate" the public about saving the planet. And NOTHING done to solve any REAL problems. Has anyone noticed that the Gulf of Mexico is covered with Oil? Do I need to remind you that the ocean houses the beginning of the food chain that keeps us all alive. Are you all idiots? Oh wait. I'm bouncing a basketball to clean the Gulf of Mexico! Grab a basketball and help me do it! |