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From: Desertphile on 3 Aug 2010 11:11
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 09:42:09 +0100, "Androcles"
<Headmaster(a)Hogwarts.physics_z> wrote:

> "Tom P" <werotizy(a)freent.dd> wrote in message
> news:8bpubnFnudU1(a)mid.individual.net...

> > So why is Venus so hot?

> Closer to the Sun.

That's a joke, right? You really are not that stupid, right?


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From: Erwin Schroedinger on 4 Aug 2010 10:08

"Bill Ward" <bward(a)ix.REMOVETHISnetcom.com> wrote in message
news:O7mdnXdJx9aEOsXRnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:21:27 +0200, Tom P wrote:
>
>> On 08/01/2010 11:38 PM, Last Post wrote:
>>> On Aug 1, 4:16 pm, Roger Coppock<rcopp...(a)adnc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> An actual measurement of the climate forcing by CO2 and other
>>>> greenhouse gases, and an estimate of the growth of that forcing over
>>>> time.
>>>
>>> � There is NO climate forcing by CO2 and
>>> "other greenhouse gases"
>>
>> So why is Venus so hot?
>
> Because the atmosphere is so massive. Look at the surface pressure
> compared to Earth.
>

A massive atmosphere of, say, N2, would not make a planet hot.


> Why is Mars so cold?
>
>


From: Orval Fairbairn on 4 Aug 2010 14:15
In article <i3bs93$47a$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
"Erwin Schroedinger" <erschroedinger(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> "Bill Ward" <bward(a)ix.REMOVETHISnetcom.com> wrote in message
> news:O7mdnXdJx9aEOsXRnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
> > On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:21:27 +0200, Tom P wrote:
> >
> >> On 08/01/2010 11:38 PM, Last Post wrote:
> >>> On Aug 1, 4:16 pm, Roger Coppock<rcopp...(a)adnc.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> An actual measurement of the climate forcing by CO2 and other
> >>>> greenhouse gases, and an estimate of the growth of that forcing over
> >>>> time.
> >>>
> >>> � There is NO climate forcing by CO2 and
> >>> "other greenhouse gases"
> >>
> >> So why is Venus so hot?
> >
> > Because the atmosphere is so massive. Look at the surface pressure
> > compared to Earth.
> >
>
> A massive atmosphere of, say, N2, would not make a planet hot.
>

.... nor would trace amounts of CO2. After all, we are talking about
0.04% concentration -- NOT massive percentages, like Venus.


>
> > Why is Mars so cold?
> >
...... and Mars ahs a very high percentage of CO2.

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From: Erwin Schroedinger on 4 Aug 2010 15:05

"Orval Fairbairn" <o_r_fairbairn(a)earth_link.net> wrote in message
news:o_r_fairbairn-3FE41E.14154704082010(a)70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net...
> In article <i3bs93$47a$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> "Erwin Schroedinger" <erschroedinger(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Bill Ward" <bward(a)ix.REMOVETHISnetcom.com> wrote in message
>> news:O7mdnXdJx9aEOsXRnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>> > On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:21:27 +0200, Tom P wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 08/01/2010 11:38 PM, Last Post wrote:
>> >>> On Aug 1, 4:16 pm, Roger Coppock<rcopp...(a)adnc.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> An actual measurement of the climate forcing by CO2 and other
>> >>>> greenhouse gases, and an estimate of the growth of that forcing over
>> >>>> time.
>> >>>
>> >>> � There is NO climate forcing by CO2 and
>> >>> "other greenhouse gases"
>> >>
>> >> So why is Venus so hot?
>> >
>> > Because the atmosphere is so massive. Look at the surface pressure
>> > compared to Earth.
>> >
>>
>> A massive atmosphere of, say, N2, would not make a planet hot.
>>
>
> ... nor would trace amounts of CO2. After all, we are talking about
> 0.04% concentration -- NOT massive percentages, like Venus.
>
>
>>
>> > Why is Mars so cold?
>> >
> ...... and Mars ahs a very high percentage of CO2.
>
> --


But you just said it was the mass of the atmosphere, now you say it's the %
of CO2. Do you change all your ideas this easily?

There are many on-lines sources that will explain why Mars is cold and Venus
is hot. I suggest you read them.

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From: Orval Fairbairn on 4 Aug 2010 23:47
In article <i3cdmv$dgg$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
"Erwin Schroedinger" <erschroedinger(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> "Orval Fairbairn" <o_r_fairbairn(a)earth_link.net> wrote in message
> news:o_r_fairbairn-3FE41E.14154704082010(a)70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net...
> > In article <i3bs93$47a$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> > "Erwin Schroedinger" <erschroedinger(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Bill Ward" <bward(a)ix.REMOVETHISnetcom.com> wrote in message
> >> news:O7mdnXdJx9aEOsXRnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
> >> > On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:21:27 +0200, Tom P wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 08/01/2010 11:38 PM, Last Post wrote:
> >> >>> On Aug 1, 4:16 pm, Roger Coppock<rcopp...(a)adnc.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> An actual measurement of the climate forcing by CO2 and other
> >> >>>> greenhouse gases, and an estimate of the growth of that forcing over
> >> >>>> time.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> � There is NO climate forcing by CO2 and
> >> >>> "other greenhouse gases"
> >> >>
> >> >> So why is Venus so hot?
> >> >
> >> > Because the atmosphere is so massive. Look at the surface pressure
> >> > compared to Earth.
> >> >
> >>
> >> A massive atmosphere of, say, N2, would not make a planet hot.
> >>
> >
> > ... nor would trace amounts of CO2. After all, we are talking about
> > 0.04% concentration -- NOT massive percentages, like Venus.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> > Why is Mars so cold?
> >> >
> > ...... and Mars ahs a very high percentage of CO2.
> >
> > --
>
>
> But you just said it was the mass of the atmosphere, now you say it's the %
> of CO2. Do you change all your ideas this easily?
>
I didn't change ideas. It IS the atmospheric mass, combined with
distribution of water vapor and ocean currents, that controls climate --
NOT trace amounts of CO2.


> There are many on-lines sources that will explain why Mars is cold and Venus
> is hot. I suggest you read them.

Of course -- Even though Mars' atmosphere has a high percentage of CO2,
it is cold; Venus' atmosphere is hot.

Doesn't the fact of Mars' high CO2 content shed questions regarding CO2
playing a major factor in warming?

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