A bew analysis of the photon MOMENTUM formula!!
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From: Y.Porat on 26 Jun 2010 22:07 The Photon Momentum can be presented as P = hf/c it is the full comprehensive presentation of the photon momentum nothing missing - nothing excessive right ?? !! now lets take it as is (without changing anything in it as the formula presenting the **photon momentum * momentum ie not energy .....!! )--- and present it by its dimensions** and ***dimensionless figures** by the M K S system that is a legitimate comprehensive dimension system !! :: h is 6.6 exp -34( Kilogram Meter ^2/Second) f is fs/Second while fs is *** the dimensionless figure that is attached to the 1/second **** to get ' f ' c is say (aprox ) 3 Exp8 Meter/Second now if we combine all of it we get P (photon) = 6.6 exp -Kg Meter ^2 /second times fs/Sec --- --divided by meter/Second ( times) 3 exp8 ie if we present it without the dimensions** that are canceling themselves in nominator and denominator** we get ==================================== 6.6exp-34 Kg MET /SEC times fs divided by 3 exp 8 =================================== now my question is where do you see anything relativistic???!! and if not ITS MASS IS NOT RELATIVISTIC AS WELL!! it is a revolutionary finding !! becasue proves that the photon momentum Mass IS NOT RELATIVISTIC!! --- (unlike the (until now) common parroting paradigm!!! and if so we can now coin the new'' general iron'' rule in physics :: =================================== NO MASS (THE ONLY MASS THAT EXISTS)-- --NO REAL PHYSICS!!! (at least for the experimentally ' known' physics)! ==================================== since momentum of photon is experimentally known !! THAT SIMPLE INNOVATIVE INSIGHT SHOULD SAVE SCIENCE A HUGE AMOUNT OF PRECIOUS -TIME - MONEY - AND HUMAN RESOURCES!! for just one example: wasted on mas-less particles (even'' mass less for a short time''' etc etc TIA (not for parroting crooks ) Y.Porat ----------------------------------------------------------
From: Inertial on 27 Jun 2010 19:45
"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:32f36b0e-c462-474f-855d-33e7a00df307(a)w31g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... I am guessing that there is nothing new here .. let see > The Photon Momentum can be presented as > > P = hf/c > it is the full comprehensive presentation > of the photon momentum No .. it is not "the" presentation .. there are many different ways to present it. > nothing missing - nothing excessive right ?? !! It is a correct formula .. although that disagrees with your previous position. > now lets take it as is > (without changing anything in it as the formula > presenting the **photon momentum * > momentum ie not energy .....!! )--- > > and present it by its dimensions** and > ***dimensionless figures** See .. nothing new > by the M K S system that is a legitimate > comprehensive dimension system !! :: Yeup .. one of many. Nothing special. > h is > 6.6 exp -34( Kilogram Meter ^2/Second) > > f is > fs/Second > > while fs is *** the dimensionless > figure that is attached to the 1/second **** > to get ' f ' > > c is say (aprox ) > 3 Exp8 Meter/Second > > now if we combine all of it > we get > > P (photon) = 6.6 exp -Kg Meter ^2 /second times fs/Sec --- > --divided by meter/Second ( times) 3 exp8 > > ie if we present it without the > dimensions** that are canceling themselves > in nominator and denominator** > > we get > ==================================== > 6.6exp-34 Kg MET /SEC times fs divided by 3 exp 8 > =================================== Message way to present it .. should not be two dimensionless values there .. if done properly the dimensioness figures should be separate from the units > now my question is > > where do you see anything relativistic???!! No equation split up into units and dimensional values will look relativistic. Further .. you seem to think there needs to be a 'gamma' factor in a formula for it to be relativistic. > and if not > ITS MASS IS NOT RELATIVISTIC AS WELL!! There is momentum and frequency there .. you need the formula that includes mass if you want ot talk about mass P = Mc Where M is relativistic mass > it is a revolutionary finding !! Nope > becasue proves > that the photon momentum Mass > IS NOT RELATIVISTIC!! --- No .. it doesn't. It doesn't even MENTION photon mass > (unlike the (until now) common > parroting paradigm!!! > > and if so > we can now coin the new'' general iron'' rule > in physics :: > > =================================== > NO MASS (THE ONLY MASS THAT EXISTS)-- > --NO REAL PHYSICS!!! > > (at least for the experimentally ' known' physics)! > ==================================== That's just a slogan .. not a rule > since momentum of photon is experimentally known !! Yeup > THAT SIMPLE INNOVATIVE INSIGHT > SHOULD SAVE SCIENCE A HUGE AMOUNT > OF > PRECIOUS -TIME - MONEY - > AND HUMAN RESOURCES!! Noone is wasting money on working out the momentum of a photon any more > for just one example: > wasted on mas-less particles (even'' mass less for a short > time''' etc etc Photons are massless > TIA (not for parroting crooks ) You're the only crook .. you fraudulently claim to be doing phsycis As I guessed .. nothing new at all in your post .. same old nonsense. |