From: krw on
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:32:44 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>Joel Koltner wrote:
>> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:7ob08jF3oortqU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>> But wait, $600 for a Christmas gift? Ain't that a bit over the top?
>>
>> Only a little... I think that $250-$500 per kid for Xmas today is not at
>> all uncommon today...
>>
>>> As a kid I had to work for stuff like that. For example at a meat
>>> factory until I had the $400 for my first used and pretty banged up
>>> HW100 transceiver.
>>
>> I doubt you can legally work at a meat factory unless you're at least 18
>> today. :-(
>>
>> If you want to see some kids with wealthy parents who are *seriously*
>> spoiled, check this out:
>> http://www.mtv.com/shows/sweet_16/episodes.jhtml . It's not uncommon on
>> that show for the parents to blow $25-$100k on their kid's 16th birthday!
>>
>> If I had the choice between a Lexus and, I dunno, a Civic and a bunch of
>> test equipment, I think it'd be obvious which I'd choose...
>>
>
>What I really don't understand is when a couple goes into big time debt
>just for the wedding ceremony, and often the bride's folks as well. I've
>heard of one couple who "had to" sell their home and move into an
>apartment to give their daughter an "appropriate" wedding.
>
>We made sure that neither of our parents had to pay anything and that
>our wedding ceremony was reasonable and could be comfortably paid from
>our savings (without raiding the account). Credit card use for the
>wedding was zilch.

I was in college when we got married. Her parents paid for everything
but the minister (that cost me a week's pay and he only charge me half
the normal $100 ;). I think they shelled out about $1000 but 80% of
that was the dress. It still haunts me (moved it twice in the last
two years).
From: krw on
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:21:44 -0800, Rich Grise <richgrise(a)example.net>
wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:56:44 -0800, Joel Koltner wrote:
>>
>> I doubt you can legally work at a meat factory unless you're at least 18
>> today. :-(
>
>Isn't a "meat factory" also known as a "farm"? ;-)

No, the "meat factory" is the "farm's" customer.
From: Jim Yanik on
Charlie E. <edmondson(a)ieee.org> wrote in
news:39j5i59bbos86k817hognomq7dn6ua0ngd(a)4ax.com:

> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:32:44 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>Joel Koltner wrote:
>>> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:7ob08jF3oortqU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>> But wait, $600 for a Christmas gift? Ain't that a bit over the top?
>>>
>>> Only a little... I think that $250-$500 per kid for Xmas today is
>>> not at all uncommon today...
>>>
>>>> As a kid I had to work for stuff like that. For example at a meat
>>>> factory until I had the $400 for my first used and pretty banged up
>>>> HW100 transceiver.
>>>
>>> I doubt you can legally work at a meat factory unless you're at
>>> least 18 today. :-(
>>>
>>> If you want to see some kids with wealthy parents who are
>>> *seriously* spoiled, check this out:
>>> http://www.mtv.com/shows/sweet_16/episodes.jhtml . It's not
>>> uncommon on that show for the parents to blow $25-$100k on their
>>> kid's 16th birthday!
>>>
>>> If I had the choice between a Lexus and, I dunno, a Civic and a
>>> bunch of test equipment, I think it'd be obvious which I'd choose...
>>>
>>
>>What I really don't understand is when a couple goes into big time
>>debt just for the wedding ceremony, and often the bride's folks as
>>well. I've heard of one couple who "had to" sell their home and move
>>into an apartment to give their daughter an "appropriate" wedding.
>>
>>We made sure that neither of our parents had to pay anything and that
>>our wedding ceremony was reasonable and could be comfortably paid from
>>our savings (without raiding the account). Credit card use for the
>>wedding was zilch.
>
> Ah, Jeorg, we are so much alike!
>
> When we got married, we were still in college, so had a small ceremony
> there. We paid for the flowers, the photos (a real mess, but then we
> were young then, and didn't know to get things in writing!) the cakes,
> etc. We didn't even HAVE a credit card at the time! Her folks helped
> out on some of the expenses, and her mom made the dress. I just
> rented a tux. It was simple, and inexpensive, and still very
> memorable!
>
> Charlie
>

kids these days are more into self-gratification.
They will go into debt with an expensive wedding,they'll buy boob jobs on
credit while their kids go without stuff,etc.Gotta have two cars,a gym
membership,go clubbing all the time, and so on. No savings.

They don't plan for the future.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
From: Joerg on
krw wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:13:06 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> John Larkin wrote:
>>> On 10 Dec 2009 17:26:14 GMT, Robert Latest <boblatest(a)yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joerg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Back in those days watch dials would be readable all night, not nearly
>>>>> have that much decay. That is no longer the case, no matter what fancy
>>>>> material they use.
>>>> I wonder if the phosphorescence of that radium compound has anything to
>>>> do with the radium's radioactivity. Maybe the radioactivity helps to get
>>>> the energy into or back out of the long-term storage states.
>>>>
>>>> robert
>>> Of course it does. Radium phosphors will glow in the dark for
>>> centuries. That's what the radium is for. Tritium too, except its
>>> half-life is around 12 years.
>>>
>> I remember back in the 60's and 70's that there was the occasional
>> warning not to wear a wrist watch "upside down" because it's then too
>> close to your reproductive functions when having the hand in a pocket.
>
> Radium is an alpha-emitter and Tritium emits a low energy beta
> particle. Dead skin will stop either and certainly the watch crystal
> will. The danger was much like that the mad hatters faced, not those
> who wore the hats. Chalk that one up to proto-warmingist fear
> mongering.


Yup, I was never really concerned about it.

--
Regards, Joerg

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From: Rich Grise on
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:03:14 -0600, krw wrote:
>
> Sky falling there? ;-)

It's falling here at the moment, in liquid form. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich