From: peter on
can I just add mention of "Carbon Copy Cloner" which works superbly
for apple mac computers.

Peter Lindsay

On 10 August 2010 08:55, David Bailey <dave(a)removedbailey.co.uk> wrote:
> On 09/08/10 10:12, David Park wrote:
>> In addition to the weekly full system backup on the PC backup drive, and a
>> monthly backup to DVD of all my important files, I also have a short term
>> CurrentBackup folder on my desktop. I make quick copies into there from the
>> home folder for current notebooks that I've been doing a lot of work on.
>> It's a simple low-tech method.
>>
> I like low tech backup methods too - you know exactly what is going on.
> I wrote a small C program to copy a file to a backup folder, appending a
> number to the file name so that multiple copies of the same file can be
> stored.
>
> For my main backup, I have found a splendid product with the curious
> name "EASEOUS TODO BACKUP". This copies and compresses a whole partition
> to another drive - typically an add on drive. The resulting file can be
> used to restore the entire machine, or it can be "mounted" so that it
> appears as another read-only drive. Remarkably this software is free -
> just download it!
>
> I don't think a backup mechanism built in to Mathematica would be useful
> - because I always have other files outside Mathematica, that I like to
> save at the same time.
>
> David Bailey
> http://www.dbaileyconsultancy.co.uk
>
>

From: AES on
In article <i3r0nt$dhe$1(a)smc.vnet.net>,
"Kevin J. McCann" <Kevin.McCann(a)umbc.edu> wrote:

> Yet there is still no documentation on the different environments or a
> detailed HOWTO on Stylesheets.
>

I have found the latter a particularly big pain.

From: telefunkenvf14 on
On Aug 9, 4:12 am, "David Park" <djmp...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> In addition to the weekly full system backup on the PC backup drive, and a
> monthly backup to DVD of all my important files, I also have a short term
> CurrentBackup folder on my desktop. I make quick copies into there from the
> home folder for current notebooks that I've been doing a lot of work on.
> It's a simple low-tech method.
>
> Make the Documentation Center like Wikipedia so users could edit it and add
> examples or caveats? If it works for Wikipedia it might work for
> Mathematica. Then could MathLeaks be far behind?

I don't think transferring the entire documentation center to
MediaWiki would be a good idea. (or possible---without insane effort)
But it would be nice if WRI enabled a simple way to connect the
documentation to additional resources, such as explanations by and for
other users. I can envision several ways this would be done.

Everything in the documentation center already seems to have a tag
associated with it. Perhaps users could just post their input and tag
references to the Wolfram Library? (BTW, it would also be super-sweet
if the library had some sort of rating and commenting feature. And it
would also be nice if they'd encourage people to update their code...
at least once a decade.) Then users could change a setting in
Mathematica to, say, download all user documentation supplements with
at least S (star rating), intended for subjects/topics (x, y...).

If done right, this would enable WRI to continue to keep the
documentation succinct----pleasing both experienced users, who'd
rather see less clutter, and newbies, who crave additional examples.
It would also enable the user community to help fill out the more
sparsely documented features. (just typing that made me excited.)

Hahaha... MathLeaks.

>
> David Park
> djmp...(a)comcast.nethttp://home.comcast.net/~djmpark/
>
> From: telefunkenvf14 [mailto:rgo...(a)gmail.com]
>
> On Aug 7, 5:22 am, Mihail <macherkass...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 3. I'm not totally in favor of integrating backup features. I can
> imagine cases where this would cause problems, slow-downs and crashes,
> especially if notebooks are large. Perhaps a backup feature that
> ignores output cells would work?
>
> The irony is that as you get better at Mathematica you don't code as much
> notebook crashing garbage, making backups redundant. (haha) Of course
> this doesn't comfort new users... I use Microsoft LiveSync to sync my
> notebooks across machines, and along with regular system backups, this
> seems to be enough.
>
> 4. While I've also REALLY grown to love the documentation materials
> (especially compared to other languages!!), I do wish there were a way
> WRI could somehow include a way for users to contribute to it and
> customize it. (i) When a user comes across a documentation example
> they find confusing, it would be nice if there were small/discrete
> button that linked to additional explanations provided by the
> community. This would be a way to document 'gotchas' and points of
> confusion amongst users---and would surely be useful summary info that
> WRI could use to improve the product. (ii) I'd also like to be able to
> bookmark locations in the documentation and save scraps of customized
> code ideas, tagged to those bookmarks. I know this would cut down on
> the mountain of scrap notebooks I have!!


From: telefunkenvf14 on
On Aug 10, 2:58 am, peter <plindsa...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps an enterprising contributor from this forum could start a Wiki
> where experts could contribute. Wolfram might allow a link to the Wiki
> from within Mathematica ?
>
> Peter Lindsay

Good news if all you want is a Wiki.... there already is a one!!!
(mathematica-users.org)

However, the server has always been slow and buggy when I've tried to
access it. Your mileage may vary. (Perhaps we could chip in for a
server upgrade?!? Or maybe WRI could host it on their infrastructure?)

> On 9 August 2010 10:14, David Bailey <d...(a)removedbailey.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > On 08/08/10 12:21, telefunkenvf14 wrote:
>
> >> 4. While I've also REALLY grown to love the documentation materials
> >> (especially compared to other languages!!), I do wish there were a way
> >> WRI could somehow include a way for users to contribute to it and
> >> customize it. (i) When a user comes across a documentation example
> >> they find confusing, it would be nice if there were small/discrete
> >> button that linked to additional explanations provided by the
> >> community. This would be a way to document 'gotchas' and points of
> >> confusion amongst users---and would surely be useful summary info that
> >> WRI could use to improve the product. (ii) I'd also like to be able to
> >> bookmark locations in the documentation and save scraps of customized
> >> code ideas, tagged to those bookmarks. I know this would cut down on
> >> the mountain of scrap notebooks I have!!
>
> > This is an excellent idea - I hope WRI are listening!
>
> > For example, people would soon flag the fact that MatrixForm leaves an
> > extra layer in expressions like:
>
> > A = Transpose[B]//MatrixForm
>
> > This is not obvious from the documentation.
>
> > Of course, to make this work, WRI would have to vet the extra material,
> > or give trusted users the right to add material.
>
> > David Bailey
>
> >http://www.dbaileyconsultancy.co.uk


From: Murray Eisenberg on
The main issues, from my point of view are simply to ensure:

(1) if Mathematica crashes, you only lose the past so-many minutes work; and

(2) you can readily retrieve earlier versions of a notebook;

(3) and take care of all this directly from within Mathematica.

Of course one uses other backup tools to back up whole folders,
partitions, or drives.


On 8/10/2010 3:55 AM, David Bailey wrote:
> On 09/08/10 10:12, David Park wrote:
>> In addition to the weekly full system backup on the PC backup drive, and a
>> monthly backup to DVD of all my important files, I also have a short term
>> CurrentBackup folder on my desktop. I make quick copies into there from the
>> home folder for current notebooks that I've been doing a lot of work on.
>> It's a simple low-tech method.
>>
> I like low tech backup methods too - you know exactly what is going on.
> I wrote a small C program to copy a file to a backup folder, appending a
> number to the file name so that multiple copies of the same file can be
> stored.
>
> For my main backup, I have found a splendid product with the curious
> name "EASEOUS TODO BACKUP". This copies and compresses a whole partition
> to another drive - typically an add on drive. The resulting file can be
> used to restore the entire machine, or it can be "mounted" so that it
> appears as another read-only drive. Remarkably this software is free -
> just download it!
>
> I don't think a backup mechanism built in to Mathematica would be useful
> - because I always have other files outside Mathematica, that I like to
> save at the same time.
>
> David Bailey
> http://www.dbaileyconsultancy.co.uk
>

--
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Mathematics & Statistics Dept.
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University of Massachusetts 413 545-2859 (W)
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