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From: becko on 13 Aug 2010 06:54 Personally, I just love the simplicity of Mathematica interface. Just a blank page to write stuff. Nothing more. And all the power is right there. Anything more would make it complicated, buggy, or not general-purpose as it is. One thing that bothers me though is the limited undo. It turns out that this is more tricky with Mathematica than what one might think. It has been discussed several times before: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.soft-sys.math.mathematica/browse_thread/thread/a15d974954b3f0f1/29cf0215004d8d04?lnk=gst&q=undo#29cf0215004d8d04 I just hope that when WRI finally decides to to something about this undo issue, they don't break the simplicity of the interface as it is today. If they don't have some super slick and simple solution to this issue, I would prefer that the undo remains as it is. As I said, the simplicity and consistency of Mathematica is something I wouldn't risk for anything. I also like the idea of users contributing to the documentation. Particularly the Possible Issues sections. -------------------------------------------------- From: "peter" <plindsay.0(a)gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:25 AM To: <mathgroup(a)smc.vnet.net> Subject: Re: A new graphic user interface > buggy indeed; "Safari can't find server" > Thanks anyway > Peter > > On 11 August 2010 09:45, telefunkenvf14 <rgorka(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Aug 10, 2:58 am, peter <plindsa...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Perhaps an enterprising contributor from this forum could start a Wiki >>> where experts could contribute. Wolfram might allow a link to the Wiki >>> from within Mathematica ? >>> >>> Peter Lindsay >> >> Good news if all you want is a Wiki.... there already is a one!!! >> (mathematica-users.org) >> >> However, the server has always been slow and buggy when I've tried to >> access it. Your mileage may vary. (Perhaps we could chip in for a >> server upgrade?!? Or maybe WRI could host it on their infrastructure?) >> >>> On 9 August 2010 10:14, David Bailey <d...(a)removedbailey.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>> > On 08/08/10 12:21, telefunkenvf14 wrote: >>> >>> >> 4. While I've also REALLY grown to love the documentation materials >>> >> (especially compared to other languages!!), I do wish there were a >>> >> way >>> >> WRI could somehow include a way for users to contribute to it and >>> >> customize it. (i) When a user comes across a documentation example >>> >> they find confusing, it would be nice if there were small/discrete >>> >> button that linked to additional explanations provided by the >>> >> community. This would be a way to document 'gotchas' and points of >>> >> confusion amongst users---and would surely be useful summary info >>> >> that >>> >> WRI could use to improve the product. (ii) I'd also like to be able >>> >> to >>> >> bookmark locations in the documentation and save scraps of customized >>> >> code ideas, tagged to those bookmarks. I know this would cut down on >>> >> the mountain of scrap notebooks I have!! >>> >>> > This is an excellent idea - I hope WRI are listening! >>> >>> > For example, people would soon flag the fact that MatrixForm leaves an >>> > extra layer in expressions like: >>> >>> > A = Transpose[B]//MatrixForm >>> >>> > This is not obvious from the documentation. >>> >>> > Of course, to make this work, WRI would have to vet the extra >>> > material, >>> > or give trusted users the right to add material. >>> >>> > David Bailey >>> >>> >http://www.dbaileyconsultancy.co.uk >> >> >> > >
From: Ingolf Dahl on 13 Aug 2010 06:55 This is a bit unfair according to my opinion, www.mma-users.org almost always open without problems in Internet Explorer and in Firefox, and if it does not I send a message to LucB or SarahF, and then they quite fast restart the server. A bigger problem is that there is only one regular contributor presently, while there are several spammers (or maybe one spammer with several identities), inserting links to "essay writing services" helping lazy but rich students with deception:" ... for more than 7 years we have been delivering high quality custom essays, research papers and dissertations to satisfied customers. We understand the pressure students are under to achieve high academic goals and we are ready to take some of it off you because we love writing." And "With flexible pricing policy and 24/7 customer service, it's clear that only success can come from choosing our company. By choosing us as your partner, you achieve more academically and gain valuable time for your other interests." As I see it, this is a kind of complicity in crime. Does anybody of you have a good idea how to stop these spammers? Could this business be explicitly forbidden? Could one write to departments of justice and education in several countries, or is it better to write to senators and members of parliaments? I think that these spammers place their links in the math wiki in order to obtain higher search engine ranking. There is an outdated wish list at http://www.mma-users.org/webMathematica/wiki/wiki.jsp?pageName=Wish_list . Is there someone who could reorganize this, and check what is still relevant? Please also check the Forum Index, Mathematica resources, Links, Packages, and the User web pages, and correct erroneous links and add missing! There is a good chance that you might find something interesting. > -----Original Message----- > From: peter [mailto:plindsay.0(a)gmail.com] > Sent: den 12 augusti 2010 11:25 > To: mathgroup(a)smc.vnet.net > Subject: Re: A new graphic user interface > > buggy indeed; "Safari can't find server" > Thanks anyway > Peter > > On 11 August 2010 09:45, telefunkenvf14 <rgorka(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Aug 10, 2:58 am, peter <plindsa...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Perhaps an enterprising contributor from this forum could start a Wiki > >> where experts could contribute. Wolfram might allow a link to the Wiki > >> from within Mathematica ? > >> > >> Peter Lindsay > > > > Good news if all you want is a Wiki.... there already is a one!!! > > (mathematica-users.org) > > > > However, the server has always been slow and buggy when I've tried to > > access it. Your mileage may vary. (Perhaps we could chip in for a > > server upgrade?!? Or maybe WRI could host it on their infrastructure?) > > > >> On 9 August 2010 10:14, David Bailey <d...(a)removedbailey.co.uk> wrote: > >> > >> > On 08/08/10 12:21, telefunkenvf14 wrote: > >> > >> >> 4. While I've also REALLY grown to love the documentation materials > >> >> (especially compared to other languages!!), I do wish there were a way > >> >> WRI could somehow include a way for users to contribute to it and > >> >> customize it. (i) When a user comes across a documentation example > >> >> they find confusing, it would be nice if there were small/discrete > >> >> button that linked to additional explanations provided by the > >> >> community. This would be a way to document 'gotchas' and points of > >> >> confusion amongst users---and would surely be useful summary info that > >> >> WRI could use to improve the product. (ii) I'd also like to be able to > >> >> bookmark locations in the documentation and save scraps of customized > >> >> code ideas, tagged to those bookmarks. I know this would cut down on > >> >> the mountain of scrap notebooks I have!! > >> > >> > This is an excellent idea - I hope WRI are listening! > >> > >> > For example, people would soon flag the fact that MatrixForm leaves an > >> > extra layer in expressions like: > >> > >> > A = Transpose[B]//MatrixForm > >> > >> > This is not obvious from the documentation. > >> > >> > Of course, to make this work, WRI would have to vet the extra material, > >> > or give trusted users the right to add material. > >> > >> > David Bailey > >> > >> >http://www.dbaileyconsultancy.co.uk > > > > > >
From: Murray Eisenberg on 13 Aug 2010 06:56 A good in-program back-up solution allows, at the user's choice: (1) timed auto-save, with a user-specifiable interval; and (2) on-demand back-up. On 8/12/2010 5:28 AM, David Bailey wrote: > On 11/08/10 09:49, Murray Eisenberg wrote: >> The main issues, from my point of view are simply to ensure: >> >> (1) if Mathematica crashes, you only lose the past so-many minutes work; and >> >> (2) you can readily retrieve earlier versions of a notebook; >> >> (3) and take care of all this directly from within Mathematica. >> > > I don't want something that saves at regular intervals, because > inevitably it will save part way through a long set of changes, and > produce something inconsistent. Maybe some option to take a copy the > file each time it is saved, to a stack of back versions. > > Also, when Mathematica starts to get into a mess - as inevitably it does > now and again - I don't really want it writing backup files, etc. > > I am not sure there is a good fully automatic solution to the problem. > > David Bailey > > http://www.dbaileyconsultancy.co.uk > > -- Murray Eisenberg murray(a)math.umass.edu Mathematics & Statistics Dept. Lederle Graduate Research Tower phone 413 549-1020 (H) University of Massachusetts 413 545-2859 (W) 710 North Pleasant Street fax 413 545-1801 Amherst, MA 01003-9305
From: Uayeb on 13 Aug 2010 06:58 Kevin and Murry, Although I've never tried, it seems Mathematica should already provide much of the functionality needed to do this. I must admit I'm often plagued by the same problem, so a fix to this would be handy. Seems that we should be able to set a hook on on a regular event that causes the notebook to be saved (possibly a copy in a temporary location). For my own purposes, ideally this could be every time evaluation completes. I had a look through the documentation for EventHandler, NotebookEventActions, and FrontEndEventActions, but none of them seem to have an "evaluation complete" event. The documentation at FrontEndEventActions has an example which is very similar to what we need, though: it adds a hook to closing a window that appends the title of the notebook to a list. I wouldn't be surprised if such an event isn't generated somewhere, but it doesn't seem to be documented.Anyone else have any ideas? Cheers, Andy Green Astronomy PhD Student Swinburne University On Aug 12, 7:25 pm, "Kevin J. McCann" <Kevin.McC...(a)umbc.edu> wrote: > Murray, > > I totally agree with these 3 "requirements". There is nothing more > disheartening to a student who is new to Mathematica that to have the las= t > hour's work disappear for reasons that are not even clear. I have gotten > in the habit of saving often ("save early, save often"). I have a number > of calculations that can take a lot of memory, and if this gets too big, > it can crash Mathematica with ensuing wailing and gnashing of teeth. > > Kevin > > Murray Eisenberg wrote: > > The main issues, from my point of view are simply to ensure: > > > (1) if Mathematica crashes, you only lose the past so-many minutes work= ; and > > > (2) you can readily retrieve earlier versions of a notebook; > > > (3) and take care of all this directly from within Mathematica. > > > Of course one uses other backup tools to back up whole folders, > > partitions, or drives.
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