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From: Colin Paul Gloster on 5 Feb 2010 11:58
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010, Leslie wrote:

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I consider Smalltalk versus Eiffel to be a counterexample.
From: Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne) on 5 Feb 2010 12:22
On 5 fév, 17:58, Colin Paul Gloster <Colin_Paul_Glos...(a)ACM.org>
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> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010, Leslie wrote:
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> |        And, ideally, the language should also be designed with |
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> I consider Smalltalk versus Eiffel to be a counterexample.
Yes, Bertrand Meyer like to assert that about its language.
While to be honest, implementation rationale is always an issue.
That's true with Ada as it is with Eiffel.
Let say there is different weighting in this area (but can't say any
language does not make it an issue).

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