From: Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne) on 28 Jan 2010 14:32 A persistent Ada rumor which was at least still there at the year of 2004 (I'm quoting) : > I've also heard rumor that Ada is so complex that no > single programmer fully understands it, and so the military > uses it, but that smacks of Urban Legend to me... It's in the middle of this place : http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Perl/comp.lang.perl.misc/2004-11/0699.html Well, at least the guy has some doubts
From: Ira Baxter on 29 Jan 2010 10:28 "Hibou57 (Yannick Duch�ne)" <yannick_duchene(a)yahoo.fr> wrote in message news:141823e0-535d-4468-95b1-d826f7efb115(a)n7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >A persistent Ada rumor which was at least still there at the year of > 2004 (I'm quoting) : > >> I've also heard rumor that Ada is so complex that no >> single programmer fully understands it, and so the military >> uses it, but that smacks of Urban Legend to me... Your point is? [This is true of C++ also, let alone C++0X]/ What matters is that the language is so complex that most programmers that use don't fully understand it. Before people get excited, AFAICT, this is true of virtually every programming language on the planet. It isn't so a much a property of the langauge, but rather of nature of the average programmer. What this means to me is that you should choose a well designed language in which to build your systems. Its the one thing you have a chance of controlling. Management won't let you choose the programmers. -- IDB
From: Leslie on 29 Jan 2010 15:53 Ira Baxter wrote: > > "Hibou57 (Yannick Duch�ne)" <yannick_duchene(a)yahoo.fr> wrote > in message > news:141823e0-535d-4468-95b1-d826f7efb115(a)n7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >>A persistent Ada rumor which was at least still there at the >>year of >> 2004 (I'm quoting) : >> >>> I've also heard rumor that Ada is so complex that no >>> single programmer fully understands it, and so the military >>> uses it, but that smacks of Urban Legend to me... > > Your point is? [This is true of C++ also, > let alone C++0X]/ > > What matters is that the language is so complex that most > programmers that use don't fully understand it. > > Before people get excited, AFAICT, this is true of > virtually every programming language on the planet. > It isn't so a much a property of the langauge, but > rather of nature of the average programmer. > > What this means to me is that you should choose a well > designed language in which to build your systems. > Its the one thing you have a chance of controlling. > Management won't let you choose the programmers. > > -- IDB And, ideally, the language should also be designed with programmer-friendliness, as opposed to implementor-friendliness, as its primary goal; e.g. Rexx vs Perl. :-) Personlally, I find Ada to be much more friendly than most of the popular languages in use. Leslie
From: T. Taft on 1 Feb 2010 21:26 On Jan 28, 2:32 pm, Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne) <yannick_duch...(a)yahoo.fr> wrote: > A persistent Ada rumor which was at least still there at the year of > 2004 (I'm quoting) : > > > I've also heard rumor that Ada is so complex that no > > single programmer fully understands it, and so the military > > uses it, but that smacks of Urban Legend to me... > > It's in the middle of this place :http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Perl/comp.lang.perl.misc/2004-11/... > > Well, at least the guy has some doubts Don't believe the rumor. ;-) -T. Taft
From: Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne) on 2 Feb 2010 14:15 On 29 jan, 21:53, Leslie <jlturr...(a)centurytel.net> wrote: > And, ideally, the language should also be designed with > programmer-friendliness, as opposed to implementor-friendliness, > as its primary goal; e.g. Rexx vs Perl. :-) > Personlally, I find Ada to be much more friendly than most of > the popular languages in use. > > Leslie Sure it's less implementor friendly than it is to user On 2 fév, 13:09, Gautier write-only <gautier_niou...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > That's certainly true, but if complexity should refrain [...] I would like to say Ada (and some others) are not more and not less complex than the Reality Is (and domains and realities may vary).
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