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From: master1729 on 18 May 2010 12:34 > I would like to see a simple proof of FLT. Is there > any theoretical > reason why a simple proof of FLT cannot exist? well it is known to be hard to find a proof using infinite descent and little more. and often non-unique factorization causes problems too. basic modular aritmetic is too weak. those 3 make it seem hard to find an elementary short proof.
From: master1729 on 18 May 2010 12:38 > In article > <7738cc44-1018-4256-b238-ae799e6a56e1(a)z33g2000vbb.goog > legroups.com>, > Tonico <Tonicopm(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On May 17, 8:00 pm, Craig Feinstein > <cafei...(a)msn.com> wrote: > > > I would like to see a simple proof of FLT. Is > there any theoretical > > > reason why a simple proof of FLT cannot exist? > > > > > > ...and I would like to see a simple proof of the > Feit-Thompson theorem > > but there is none so far...*sigh* > > I'd like to see a simple cure for cancer, and an end > to world hunger, > and peace in the Middle East. since cure for cancer is related to medicine and biology , and thus belongs to " science " , then what is the equation we need to solve for the cure for cancer ? > > Where is the Easter bunny when you need him? > > -- > Gerry Myerson (gerry(a)maths.mq.edi.ai) (i -> u for > email)
From: spudnik on 19 May 2010 22:45 "infinite descent & more" is just contradiction of some sort, which assuredly is plausible for such a negative conjecture/theorem. why is unique factorization problematic for these non-allowed integral values (assuming, Fermat was correct, for once ?-) whether mod arithmetic Day One is inadequate, I don't no enough of it to say. > and often non-unique factorization causes problems too. > basic modular aritmetic is too weak. > no problem with quadratic reciprocity, though. thusNso: twins are always of the form, 6n plus and minus one? thusNso: on the wayside, please, attempt to "save the dysappearance" of Newton's God-am corpuscular "theory," by not using them in equations with "momentum (equals mass times directed velocity)." thusNso: actually, receding glaciers are probably better for rafting, compared to advancing ones, iff there's more water. thusNso: can one tell a priori that a black surface will absorb more infrared, since it is invisible in the first place, invoking, perhaps, blackbody curves (and, there are "line spectra" for both absorption & emmission) ?? I wish folks like Y'know and y'Know would at least *try* to write their syllogistical theories in terms of, "There Are No Photons?" just this afternoon, a lecturer showed a slide with a graph of "phonons from 0 to over 1 teracycles;" is that the sound of light? http://www.xs4all.nl/~johanw/PhysFAQ/General/LightMill/light-mill.html thusNso: I like all three of those; note that there is a raw infinity of trigona, two of whose edges are perpendicular to the other edge, as far as spherical trig goes, and I really like those "half lunes." --y'know dot the surfer's value of pi dot com period semicolon & I mean it! http://\\:btty
From: DRMARJOHN on 22 May 2010 07:12 > I would like to see a simple proof of FLT. Is there > any theoretical > reason why a simple proof of FLT cannot exist? You ask a resonable question, and you get a lot of flak. I, a non mathematician who have the same curiosity for many years, also get flak. There must be an approach that brings out the basic mathematical rules underlying FLT. Martin Johnson
From: Jesse F. Hughes on 22 May 2010 12:21
DRMARJOHN <MJOHNMAR(a)AOL.COM> writes: >> I would like to see a simple proof of FLT. Is there >> any theoretical >> reason why a simple proof of FLT cannot exist? > > You ask a resonable question, and you get a lot of flak. What flak did he get? Chip's response, in particular, was respectful, helpful and to the point. -- Jesse F. Hughes .... one of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs. -- Robert Firth |