A third party POP3 Connector which will work on SBS2008
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From: JP on 27 May 2010 16:15 Dear All. Thank you for your sound advice. I have made up my mind that I shall move the SBS2003 to SMTP, which I know works well as I have few Clients on it. My only concern was, as there is no ICW on SBS2008 how would I tell the server that emails are delivered direct to it? On SBS2003 all I did was change the MX records at my ISP (as we have a static IP address) and in ICW said that emails where delivered direct it was so easy. But on SBS2008 I can not see any setup to inform the Server that emails are delivered direct. If one of you can point to a white a paper as to how SBS2008 SMTP is setup to receive emails it would be much appreciated. Once again thank for taking the time and giving me sound advice. Please keep up the good work. Without you guys we would be lost. Regards JP "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" wrote: > JP > > Realize of course you are making more head aches for yourself by adding a > POP3 connector. > I have never had to use the POP3 Connector in "ANY" SBS migration > At most I make sure backup MX Records (Which I recommend anyway.) > > Adding something in a migration may cause you more issues. > The Amount of time you spend on configuration of the POP3 Connector > is longer than the time just to move everyone over. > (And since I work on a Per Hour Basis, Me charging more for wasted time is > frowned upon.) > > There is the SBS2008 POP3 connector > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc527480(WS.10).aspx > > If you need to Configure your mail server to answer for email for more than > one domain. > http://www.petri.co.il/change_primary_email_address_in_exchange_2007.htm > > IMO POP3 should be considered DEAD and not ever used again. > > Be sure to configure all PC's Laptops with the http://connect > when adding them to the domain > this will configure RPC over HTTPS (Outlook Anywhere) on the Laptops > And your users will be "VERY" happy! > > Russ > > -- > Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC > Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz > BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com > > > "Thomas Nielsen" <t_nielsen01(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:uNsaBJB$KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > I agree on the SMTP solution is so much better. > > But if you want to, use POPCON from christensen software. > > It will work on the SBS2008 and you can use it it trialmode for 30days > > (time enough to change to the "real" deal) > > > > Best regards > > Thomas Nielsen > > > > > > "Jim Behning SBS MVP" <jimbehning(a)doesthisblockpork.mindspring.com> wrote > > in message news:hcinv5ljj8ii7t4uuulo05k1grmqas12f7(a)4ax.com... > >> Personally I am with Larry. Get SMTP working first. If you insist on > >> not getting it working first in days of old I used to buy PopBeamer. > >> Everyone is doing SMTP now so I have not purchased the product in > >> years but it worked great back in the day.Seems like a needless > >> expense. http://www.dataenter.com/products/popbeamer.htm > >> > >> On Tue, 25 May 2010 10:57:49 +0000 (UTC), Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP] > >> <lstruckmeyer(a)mis-wizards.com> wrote: > >> > >>>Hi JP: > >>> > >>>I don't use POP3 for SBS servers, as SMTP is much better. > >>> > >>>If you can't find one you like, then I suggest you delay the migration > >>>and > >>>get SMTP working on the SBS 2003. No need to complicate things by trying > >>>to do both at once. > >>> > >>>- > >>>Larry > >>>Please post the resolution to your > >>>issue so others may benefit > >>>- > >>>Get Your SBS Health Check at > >>>www.sbsbpa.com > >>> > >>> > >>>> Hello, > >>>> > >>>> I am migrating from SBS2003 to SBS2008 Std, and would like to know if > >>>> anyone knows of a third party POP3 Connector which will work on > >>>> SBS2008 (as pop3 on SBS2008 will not do Global Mail). On SBS2003 we > >>>> use EFS (http://www.chimera.co.nz), but that EFS does not work on > >>>> SBS2008. I really do not want to move on to SMTP mail at this stage > >>>> during the migration. Once the server is install and working with all > >>>> the users up and away then I might move the Client to SMTP mail. > >>>> > >>>> This is my first migration so want to keep it as simple as possible. > >>>> > >>>> Many thanks for your help. > >>>> > >>>> JP > >>>> > >>> > >> See what SBS support is working on > >> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx > >> Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer > >> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx > > > >
From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on 29 May 2010 00:53 That's great news it's called "Set up your internet address" link In the Windows SBS Console. Make sure your MX Records are changed at MXToolBox.com to point to your External IP You can even test it there. Russ -- Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC Remote Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com "JP" <JP(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C03244BB-98A5-463A-9524-852B6C4C9E06(a)microsoft.com... > Dear All. > > Thank you for your sound advice. I have made up my mind that I shall move > the SBS2003 to SMTP, which I know works well as I have few Clients on it. > My > only concern was, as there is no ICW on SBS2008 how would I tell the > server > that emails are delivered direct to it? On SBS2003 all I did was change > the > MX records at my ISP (as we have a static IP address) and in ICW said that > emails where delivered direct it was so easy. > > But on SBS2008 I can not see any setup to inform the Server that emails > are > delivered direct. > > If one of you can point to a white a paper as to how SBS2008 SMTP is setup > to receive emails it would be much appreciated. > > Once again thank for taking the time and giving me sound advice. > > Please keep up the good work. Without you guys we would be lost. > > Regards > > JP > > > > "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" wrote: > >> JP >> >> Realize of course you are making more head aches for yourself by adding a >> POP3 connector. >> I have never had to use the POP3 Connector in "ANY" SBS migration >> At most I make sure backup MX Records (Which I recommend anyway.) >> >> Adding something in a migration may cause you more issues. >> The Amount of time you spend on configuration of the POP3 Connector >> is longer than the time just to move everyone over. >> (And since I work on a Per Hour Basis, Me charging more for wasted time >> is >> frowned upon.) >> >> There is the SBS2008 POP3 connector >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc527480(WS.10).aspx >> >> If you need to Configure your mail server to answer for email for more >> than >> one domain. >> http://www.petri.co.il/change_primary_email_address_in_exchange_2007.htm >> >> IMO POP3 should be considered DEAD and not ever used again. >> >> Be sure to configure all PC's Laptops with the http://connect >> when adding them to the domain >> this will configure RPC over HTTPS (Outlook Anywhere) on the Laptops >> And your users will be "VERY" happy! >> >> Russ >> >> -- >> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] >> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC >> Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz >> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com >> >> >> "Thomas Nielsen" <t_nielsen01(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:uNsaBJB$KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> > I agree on the SMTP solution is so much better. >> > But if you want to, use POPCON from christensen software. >> > It will work on the SBS2008 and you can use it it trialmode for 30days >> > (time enough to change to the "real" deal) >> > >> > Best regards >> > Thomas Nielsen >> > >> > >> > "Jim Behning SBS MVP" <jimbehning(a)doesthisblockpork.mindspring.com> >> > wrote >> > in message news:hcinv5ljj8ii7t4uuulo05k1grmqas12f7(a)4ax.com... >> >> Personally I am with Larry. Get SMTP working first. If you insist on >> >> not getting it working first in days of old I used to buy PopBeamer. >> >> Everyone is doing SMTP now so I have not purchased the product in >> >> years but it worked great back in the day.Seems like a needless >> >> expense. http://www.dataenter.com/products/popbeamer.htm >> >> >> >> On Tue, 25 May 2010 10:57:49 +0000 (UTC), Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP] >> >> <lstruckmeyer(a)mis-wizards.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi JP: >> >>> >> >>>I don't use POP3 for SBS servers, as SMTP is much better. >> >>> >> >>>If you can't find one you like, then I suggest you delay the migration >> >>>and >> >>>get SMTP working on the SBS 2003. No need to complicate things by >> >>>trying >> >>>to do both at once. >> >>> >> >>>- >> >>>Larry >> >>>Please post the resolution to your >> >>>issue so others may benefit >> >>>- >> >>>Get Your SBS Health Check at >> >>>www.sbsbpa.com >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> Hello, >> >>>> >> >>>> I am migrating from SBS2003 to SBS2008 Std, and would like to know >> >>>> if >> >>>> anyone knows of a third party POP3 Connector which will work on >> >>>> SBS2008 (as pop3 on SBS2008 will not do Global Mail). On SBS2003 we >> >>>> use EFS (http://www.chimera.co.nz), but that EFS does not work on >> >>>> SBS2008. I really do not want to move on to SMTP mail at this stage >> >>>> during the migration. Once the server is install and working with >> >>>> all >> >>>> the users up and away then I might move the Client to SMTP mail. >> >>>> >> >>>> This is my first migration so want to keep it as simple as possible. >> >>>> >> >>>> Many thanks for your help. >> >>>> >> >>>> JP >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> See what SBS support is working on >> >> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx >> >> Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer >> >> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx >> > >> >
From: Cliff Galiher - MVP on 29 May 2010 01:05 As others have stated, Pop3 really is not an appropriate solution. But one thing I specifically wanted to mention is that you said you want to move to SMTP later to keep the migration simple. I believe moving to SMTP is actually the simpler solution when compared to installing a 3rd party pop3 connector, adding all of the accounts it needs to check, and managing multiple passwords for each account (the account domain password + the password for the pop3 connector.) Moving to SMTP is actually a very simple process and will, in my opinion, actually make the migration (and troubleshooting any post-migration issues) easier. Consider it. -- Cliff Galiher Microsoft has opened the Small Business Server forum on Technet! Check it out! http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-us/smallbusinessserver/threads Addicted to newsgroups? Read about the NNTP Bridge for MS Forums. "JP" <JP(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:42782D2B-BB00-4911-B33C-C4BDA3E0C7F9(a)microsoft.com... > Hello, > > I am migrating from SBS2003 to SBS2008 Std, and would like to know if > anyone > knows of a third party POP3 Connector which will work on SBS2008 (as pop3 > on > SBS2008 will not do Global Mail). On SBS2003 we use EFS > (http://www.chimera.co.nz), but that EFS does not work on SBS2008. I > really > do not want to move on to SMTP mail at this stage during the migration. > Once > the server is install and working with all the users up and away then I > might > move the Client to SMTP mail. > > This is my first migration so want to keep it as simple as possible. > > Many thanks for your help. > > JP >
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