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From: Stephen Leake on 6 Jun 2010 08:31 Ludovic Brenta <ludovic(a)ludovic-brenta.org> writes: > Simon Wright <simon(a)pushface.org> writes: >> Tero Koskinen <tero.koskinen(a)iki.fi> writes: >> >>> * AUnit is Ada 2005 code only and I think it can be compiled >>> only with GNAT (not 100% sure since I haven't tried it with >>> other Ada 2005 compilers) >> >> The 2005-ness occurs because AUnit uses a private copy of >> Ada.Containers.Lists with some 05 constructs removed so that it can be >> compiled with "an" Ada 95 compiler. >> >> Unfortunately, what they mean is "with an Ada 95 compiler that >> recognises pragma Ada_2005 to mean that some Ada 2005 constructs are >> permitted even when compiling in Ada 95 mode". >> >> This doesn't include older GNATs, and certainly won't include compilers >> from other vendors. >> >> These patches update the current SVN source of AUnit to work with older >> GNATs. Ask me if you need a copy and the news system has mangled them or >> I've failed to drive Emacs correctly ... > > Stephe, how about applying this patch to Debian's version of AUnit? I don't see why. Debian supports the current version of GNAT, which supports the current Debian version (and newer AdaCore versions) of AUnit. -- -- Stephe
From: Ludovic Brenta on 6 Jun 2010 12:20 Stephen Leake writes: > Ludovic Brenta <ludovic(a)ludovic-brenta.org> writes: > >> Simon Wright <simon(a)pushface.org> writes: >>> Tero Koskinen <tero.koskinen(a)iki.fi> writes: >>> >>>> * AUnit is Ada 2005 code only and I think it can be compiled >>>> only with GNAT (not 100% sure since I haven't tried it with >>>> other Ada 2005 compilers) >>> >>> The 2005-ness occurs because AUnit uses a private copy of >>> Ada.Containers.Lists with some 05 constructs removed so that it can be >>> compiled with "an" Ada 95 compiler. >>> >>> Unfortunately, what they mean is "with an Ada 95 compiler that >>> recognises pragma Ada_2005 to mean that some Ada 2005 constructs are >>> permitted even when compiling in Ada 95 mode". >>> >>> This doesn't include older GNATs, and certainly won't include compilers >>> from other vendors. >>> >>> These patches update the current SVN source of AUnit to work with older >>> GNATs. Ask me if you need a copy and the news system has mangled them or >>> I've failed to drive Emacs correctly ... >> >> Stephe, how about applying this patch to Debian's version of AUnit? > > I don't see why. Debian supports the current version of GNAT, which > supports the current Debian version (and newer AdaCore versions) of > AUnit. The current version of GNAT (in Debian) allows compiling Ada 83, Ada 95 and Ada 2005 programs. I think that allowing Ada 95 programs to use AUnit is better than forbidding this. So the main objection is that this patch requires changing the aliversion; I would undertand that you wouldn't want to do that. -- Ludovic Brenta.
From: Simon Wright on 6 Jun 2010 12:45 Ludovic Brenta <ludovic(a)ludovic-brenta.org> writes: > Stephen Leake writes: >> Ludovic Brenta <ludovic(a)ludovic-brenta.org> writes: >> >>> Simon Wright <simon(a)pushface.org> writes: >>>> Tero Koskinen <tero.koskinen(a)iki.fi> writes: >>>> >>>>> * AUnit is Ada 2005 code only and I think it can be compiled >>>>> only with GNAT (not 100% sure since I haven't tried it with >>>>> other Ada 2005 compilers) >>>> >>>> The 2005-ness occurs because AUnit uses a private copy of >>>> Ada.Containers.Lists with some 05 constructs removed so that it can be >>>> compiled with "an" Ada 95 compiler. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, what they mean is "with an Ada 95 compiler that >>>> recognises pragma Ada_2005 to mean that some Ada 2005 constructs are >>>> permitted even when compiling in Ada 95 mode". >>>> >>>> This doesn't include older GNATs, and certainly won't include compilers >>>> from other vendors. >>>> >>>> These patches update the current SVN source of AUnit to work with older >>>> GNATs. Ask me if you need a copy and the news system has mangled them or >>>> I've failed to drive Emacs correctly ... >>> >>> Stephe, how about applying this patch to Debian's version of AUnit? >> >> I don't see why. Debian supports the current version of GNAT, which >> supports the current Debian version (and newer AdaCore versions) of >> AUnit. > > The current version of GNAT (in Debian) allows compiling Ada 83, Ada 95 > and Ada 2005 programs. I think that allowing Ada 95 programs to use > AUnit is better than forbidding this. So the main objection is that > this patch requires changing the aliversion; I would undertand that you > wouldn't want to do that. Ludovic, I think it's very likely that the current Debian GNAT supports AUnit 3's use of this pragma, even in -gnat95 mode ... OK, just tried in a VM running (sorry for my ignorance about the Debian release name) Debian 5, GNAT 4.3.2, and it says .. simon(a)nidhoggr-d:/mnt/hgfs/simon/AUnit-svn/aunit/containers$ gnatmake -gnat95 ada_containers-aunit_lists.adb -c -u -f -I../framework gcc-4.3 -c -gnat95 -I../framework ada_containers-aunit_lists.adb simon(a)nidhoggr-d:/mnt/hgfs/simon/AUnit-svn/aunit/containers$ which looks good to me. So no need for any change. --S
From: Ludovic Brenta on 6 Jun 2010 13:48 Simon Wright writes on comp.lang.ada: > Ludovic Brenta <ludovic(a)ludovic-brenta.org> writes: > >> Stephen Leake writes: >>> Ludovic Brenta <ludovic(a)ludovic-brenta.org> writes: >>> >>>> Simon Wright <simon(a)pushface.org> writes: >>>>> Tero Koskinen <tero.koskinen(a)iki.fi> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> * AUnit is Ada 2005 code only and I think it can be compiled >>>>>> only with GNAT (not 100% sure since I haven't tried it with >>>>>> other Ada 2005 compilers) >>>>> >>>>> The 2005-ness occurs because AUnit uses a private copy of >>>>> Ada.Containers.Lists with some 05 constructs removed so that it can be >>>>> compiled with "an" Ada 95 compiler. >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, what they mean is "with an Ada 95 compiler that >>>>> recognises pragma Ada_2005 to mean that some Ada 2005 constructs are >>>>> permitted even when compiling in Ada 95 mode". >>>>> >>>>> This doesn't include older GNATs, and certainly won't include compilers >>>>> from other vendors. >>>>> >>>>> These patches update the current SVN source of AUnit to work with older >>>>> GNATs. Ask me if you need a copy and the news system has mangled them or >>>>> I've failed to drive Emacs correctly ... >>>> >>>> Stephe, how about applying this patch to Debian's version of AUnit? >>> >>> I don't see why. Debian supports the current version of GNAT, which >>> supports the current Debian version (and newer AdaCore versions) of >>> AUnit. >> >> The current version of GNAT (in Debian) allows compiling Ada 83, Ada 95 >> and Ada 2005 programs. I think that allowing Ada 95 programs to use >> AUnit is better than forbidding this. So the main objection is that >> this patch requires changing the aliversion; I would undertand that you >> wouldn't want to do that. > > Ludovic, > > I think it's very likely that the current Debian GNAT supports AUnit 3's > use of this pragma, even in -gnat95 mode ... OK, just tried in a VM > running (sorry for my ignorance about the Debian release name) Debian 5, > GNAT 4.3.2, and it says .. > > simon(a)nidhoggr-d:/mnt/hgfs/simon/AUnit-svn/aunit/containers$ gnatmake -gnat95 ada_containers-aunit_lists.adb -c -u -f -I../framework > gcc-4.3 -c -gnat95 -I../framework ada_containers-aunit_lists.adb > simon(a)nidhoggr-d:/mnt/hgfs/simon/AUnit-svn/aunit/containers$ > > which looks good to me. So no need for any change. OK, thanks a lot for checking this. -- Ludovic Brenta.
From: Stephen Leake on 7 Jun 2010 04:26
Ludovic Brenta <ludovic(a)ludovic-brenta.org> writes: > Stephen Leake writes: >> Ludovic Brenta <ludovic(a)ludovic-brenta.org> writes: >> >>> Simon Wright <simon(a)pushface.org> writes: >>>> Tero Koskinen <tero.koskinen(a)iki.fi> writes: >>>> >>>>> * AUnit is Ada 2005 code only and I think it can be compiled >>>>> only with GNAT (not 100% sure since I haven't tried it with >>>>> other Ada 2005 compilers) >>>> >>>> The 2005-ness occurs because AUnit uses a private copy of >>>> Ada.Containers.Lists with some 05 constructs removed so that it can be >>>> compiled with "an" Ada 95 compiler. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, what they mean is "with an Ada 95 compiler that >>>> recognises pragma Ada_2005 to mean that some Ada 2005 constructs are >>>> permitted even when compiling in Ada 95 mode". >>>> >>>> This doesn't include older GNATs, and certainly won't include compilers >>>> from other vendors. >>>> >>>> These patches update the current SVN source of AUnit to work with older >>>> GNATs. Ask me if you need a copy and the news system has mangled them or >>>> I've failed to drive Emacs correctly ... >>> >>> Stephe, how about applying this patch to Debian's version of AUnit? >> >> I don't see why. Debian supports the current version of GNAT, which >> supports the current Debian version (and newer AdaCore versions) of >> AUnit. > > The current version of GNAT (in Debian) allows compiling Ada 83, Ada 95 > and Ada 2005 programs. True. I have no idea how many people use the old language. I should think the only reason to do that is for compatibility with a different compiler. And even then, the language version is not likely to be an issue. For example, I used to program in DDC Ada for an embedded computer, but GNAT for development and unit test. I used GNAT in Ada 95 mode, while DDC was Ada 83. No problems. > I think that allowing Ada 95 programs to use AUnit is better than > forbidding this. So the main objection is that this patch requires > changing the aliversion; No, the main objection is that it is different than upstream. I don't have access to the AUnit test suite. I don't want to fork. -- -- Stephe |