From: Mark Warner on
Bill Turner wrote:
> "humphry" <humphry(a)i.com> wrote:
>>
>> Things working in linux and beauty are things that linux lacked (without
>> geeking around for several hours)... But this is history. PClinuxOS is
>> here......!
>
> Gosh it works like a real OS! Whoope-do!
>
> Just spend the 90 bucks to buy WinXP and be done with it.
>
> It works too! :-)

Why spend the $90(?) when you can get a "real OS" for free?

--
Mark Warner
SimplyMEPIS 6.0
Registered Linux User #415318
....lose .inhibitions when replying
From: HVS on
On 26 Aug 2006, Mark Warner wrote

> Yes, it is very nice. As you said, multimedia "just works". I
> can't testify it to it personally, but reports are that this
> distro has hands down the best wireless support out there,
> making it ideal for laptops.
>
> I normally prefer Debian-based distros, but I make a big
> exception in this case. Highly recommended.

A sort of by-the-by story.

I tried a suse distro, then ubuntu with all the noise when it came
out. Was impressed with ubuntu, and played around/explored it a
bit. I changed the default boot to Windows (work reasons), but the
dual-boot thing worked fine. At first.

An update for ubuntu came through, which I downloaded; rebooted;
and found it had wiped Windows from the boot loader. Not just
shuffled it down the list or de-defaulted it -- *wiped* it. I had
to find out how to restore the Windows boot (which of course wiped
ubuntu off the boot sequence.)

It was not only annying, but I lost a few hours' work on the work
partition running Windows -- this ain't just a plaything -- while I
worked out how to get back to my files and workaday programs.

Once bitten and all that; I'm now very wary of dual-booting of
linux distros. If I decide to give linux another go, it'll have to
be on a separate machine.

--
Cheers,
Harvey
From: Mark Warner on
HVS wrote:
> On 26 Aug 2006, Mark Warner wrote
>
>> Yes, it is very nice. As you said, multimedia "just works". I
>> can't testify it to it personally, but reports are that this
>> distro has hands down the best wireless support out there,
>> making it ideal for laptops.
>>
>> I normally prefer Debian-based distros, but I make a big
>> exception in this case. Highly recommended.
>
> A sort of by-the-by story.
>
> I tried a suse distro, then ubuntu with all the noise when it came
> out. Was impressed with ubuntu, and played around/explored it a
> bit. I changed the default boot to Windows (work reasons), but the
> dual-boot thing worked fine. At first.
>
> An update for ubuntu came through, which I downloaded; rebooted;
> and found it had wiped Windows from the boot loader. Not just
> shuffled it down the list or de-defaulted it -- *wiped* it. I had
> to find out how to restore the Windows boot (which of course wiped
> ubuntu off the boot sequence.)
>
> It was not only annying, but I lost a few hours' work on the work
> partition running Windows -- this ain't just a plaything -- while I
> worked out how to get back to my files and workaday programs.
>
> Once bitten and all that; I'm now very wary of dual-booting of
> linux distros. If I decide to give linux another go, it'll have to
> be on a separate machine.

Unfortunate. Can't say how that might have happened. <shrug>

That being said, if I understand the situation correctly, the fix would
have taken about 90 seconds worth of very simple editing of the
/boot/grub/menu.lst file. Of course, you would have to know how, or at
least know where to ask.

I dove into Linux about a year ago, and am far from a "guru", but I've
learned enough to know how to get through most of my difficulties. It
took me a long time to get really good at making Windows do my bidding
(to the extent allowed); for me, the learning curve in Linux has been
*less* steep than it was with Windows.

I currently have four Linux distros on this machine in addition to W2K
and a big FAT32 partition I use for backups and shared files. I'm a
serial installer -- I'm all the time wiping out one partition or another
and loading up another operating system, always setting it up in my
current GrUB bootloader. Never once have I had either an install or an
update touch GrUB, except for a couple of occasions when the installer
overwrote it by default with its own version due to my blindly clicking
the Okay button. Even in those cases, my W2K partition has always
remained bootable, and restoring my preferred version of GrUB was a
simple exercise.

JME. YMMV.

--
Mark Warner
SimplyMEPIS 6.0
Registered Linux User #415318
....lose .inhibitions when replying
From: Daze N. Knights on
Mark Warner wrote:
> Bill Turner wrote:
>> "humphry" <humphry(a)i.com> wrote:
>>> Things working in linux and beauty are things that linux lacked (without
>>> geeking around for several hours)... But this is history. PClinuxOS is
>>> here......!
>> Gosh it works like a real OS! Whoope-do!
>>
>> Just spend the 90 bucks to buy WinXP and be done with it.
>>
>> It works too! :-)
>
> Why spend the $90(?) when you can get a "real OS" for free?
>

Just downloaded and did a (very) quick test drive on the PClinuxOS 0.93a
Live, and was, at least initially, rather impressed. A little slow, but
that's probably cuz it's running from CD. And none of these live distros
I've tried so far have been able to recognize my ol' HP Deskjet 950C . .
.. is that par for the course?

--
Daze
From: Art on
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 20:20:45 +0300, "humphry" <humphry(a)i.com> wrote:

>I installed the latest PCLinuxOS 0.93a Bigdaddy (or full Monty) and I was
>pleasantly surprised,
>
>Better than ubuntu, suse, mandriva and all the other distros {I am talking
>about desktop use not server}(and yes I have tried 90% of whats out there
>and 100% of the major distros).
>
>Everything just worked... and it was beautiful, even windows media played
>from out of the box with
>an included player.
>
>Things working in linux and beauty are things that linux lacked (without
>geeking around for several hours)... But this is history. PClinuxOS is
>here......!
>
>http://www.pclinuxos.com/

I tried this and it installed easily without hitches. However, the
machine I installed it on has a LinkSys wireless router adapter
card. The wireless network wizard (whatever it's called) smply
throws up its hands and complains that no wireless device can
be found. I knew it wouldn't work, but I tried the Windows
driver installation procedure and installer anyway. Nothing
happens when I click on Setup. It doesn't even inform me
that I'm stupid for even trying :)

Does anyone know the scoop about a situation like this?
Maybe LinkSys has a Linux installer for its adapter cards?
Or what?

Art
http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg





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