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From: -jg on 6 Mar 2010 18:55
On Mar 7, 12:33 pm, hamilton <hamil...(a)nothere.com> wrote:
> >>> there was free give away of XC822 based development boards on embedded
>
> I must have missed something, What is a XC822 ?

A new 80C51 core, Industrial/Automotive small package
TSSOP16 and up, from Infineon.

XC82x data is rather well hidden on the Infineon website, more info is
also in the 133MB Tools download.

http://de.sitestat.com/infineon/infineon/s?infineon.Products.Microcontrollers.8-Bit.XC800_I-Family__Industrial___Multimarket_.XC82x-Series__Industrial___Multimarket_.DOCUMENTS.XC822_XC824_PB.pdf&ns_type=pdf&ns_url=http://www.infineon.com/dgdl/XC822_XC824_PB.pdf?folderId=db3a304412b407950112b40c497b0af6&fileId=db3a304326dfb13001270adc825b3375

http://de.sitestat.com/infineon/infineon/s?infineon.Products.Microcontrollers.8-Bit.XC800_I-Family__Industrial___Multimarket_.XC82x-Series__Industrial___Multimarket_.DOCUMENTS.XC822_824_UM_v1.0.pdf&ns_type=pdf&ns_url=http://www.infineon.com/dgdl/XC822_824_UM_v1.0.pdf?folderId=db3a304412b407950112b40c497b0af6&fileId=db3a3043271faefd01272e620b6a7511

["XC82x and XC83x series ranges from 2KB to 8KB of programmable flash
and from 16-pin to 28-pin...
prices range from Euro 0.39 (US $0.55) to Euro 0.72 (US $1.01) in
100k quantities. Engineering samples of the XC82x series are
available, samples of the XC83X series starting April 2010."] e
From: hamilton on 6 Mar 2010 20:04
-jg wrote:
> On Mar 7, 12:33 pm, hamilton <hamil...(a)nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>> there was free give away of XC822 based development boards on embedded
>> I must have missed something, What is a XC822 ?
>
> A new 80C51 core, Industrial/Automotive small package
> TSSOP16 and up, from Infineon.

WOW, I started with the 8031 in 1982 !!

I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks :-D.

Thanks

hamilton
From: Antti on 7 Mar 2010 01:59
On Mar 7, 3:04 am, hamilton <hamil...(a)nothere.com> wrote:
> -jg wrote:
> > On Mar 7, 12:33 pm, hamilton <hamil...(a)nothere.com> wrote:
> >>>>> there was free give away of XC822 based development boards on embedded
> >> I must have missed something, What is a XC822 ?
>
> > A new 80C51 core, Industrial/Automotive small package
> > TSSOP16 and up, from Infineon.
>
> WOW, I started with the 8031 in 1982 !!
>
> I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks :-D.
>
> Thanks
>
> hamilton

oh there are plenty of very modern MCU's based on 8051 core

Antti
From: hamilton on 7 Mar 2010 11:39
Antti wrote:

>> WOW, I started with the 8031 in 1982 !!
>>
>> I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks :-D.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> hamilton
>
> oh there are plenty of very modern MCU's based on 8051 core
>
> Antti

This is true.

I have found the SiLabs to be expensive for parts they have.

The speed is nice, but not enough to not use more modern CPUs.

Two companies I have worked for in the last few years used SiLabs parts.

When I asked why they still used 8051 architecture they said they did
not want to spend the time learning anything new.

I found that reasoning to be very short sighted.

But, to be adding new 8051 chips on the market must mean there is still
need for it.

Maybe I'll put 8051 back on my resume and see what happens. :-)

hamilton
From: -jg on 7 Mar 2010 12:35
On Mar 8, 5:39 am, hamilton <hamil...(a)nothere.com> wrote:
> I have found the SiLabs to be expensive for parts they have.
>
> The speed is nice, but not enough to not use more modern CPUs.
>
> Two companies I have worked for in the last few years used SiLabs parts.


yes, because they work well.

> When I asked why they still used 8051 architecture they said they did
> not want to spend the time learning anything new.
>
> I found that reasoning to be very short sighted.

hehe - Now that _is_ bizarre logic. I trust you are NOT
writing that on an X86 PC!!!! It would be very short-sighted of you,
to still be using that core.
(or Arm, as that too, is an old lineage!)

> But, to be adding new 8051 chips on the market must mean there is still
> need for it.

Look at the Cypress PSoC3.

Of course. The 80C51 is still the most-shipped core in the world.
There are truckloads of Asian variants (license free, and good
tools).
Only when your project goes above a certain size, does it make sense
to look at something else.

-jg
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