From: Antti on 27 Feb 2010 14:49 Hi it's blinking it's blinking, Atmel's SOT23-6 packaged processor ATtiny10 I have had the samples on my desk for some good months already but never got the time to find a programming solution, til today ! well I got some small PCBs from the fab, where I soldered the tiny10 and then well as many times before I had to make the programming solution alright this time I only modified some source converting it from LPT to USB the conversion was done within 2 hours, then some wire soldering.. and the tiny10 was identified, programmed and started to blink the LED on the board I hope I can offer the software (need some cleanup first) after the embedded ok, within some timeframe after :) Antti
From: -jg on 3 Mar 2010 15:30 On Feb 28, 8:49 am, Antti <antti.luk...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi > > it's blinking it's blinking, Atmel's SOT23-6 packaged processor ATtiny10 Interesting part, but whenever we've looked at SOT23 uC, they are always pin-bound. Even 8 pin ones bump into the pin-count, so I've always believed a smarter limit, is 14 pins. Atmel also overlooked ANY xtal modes (?!) in the Tiny10, and it is no longer that cheap (~55c/10K) Contrast that, with the newest MSP430s - 128 bytes RAM vs 32 - 14 Pins, [;)] 10 IO, in TSOP14, and 4mm MLF16 - 25c/100k, or 37c/1K - It DOES have a 32Khz Xtal mode (downside: Narrow Vcc range) - So this part can make a smart RTC/System Monitor (for that. you'd likely choose the 46c SPI variant, or the 49c ADC model, where TI _did_ remember to include a temperature sensor!! ) -jg
From: Leon on 3 Mar 2010 17:44 On 3 Mar, 20:30, -jg <jim.granvi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 28, 8:49 am, Antti <antti.luk...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Hi > > > it's blinking it's blinking, Atmel's SOT23-6 packaged processor ATtiny10 > > Interesting part, but whenever we've looked at SOT23 uC, they are > always pin-bound. > Even 8 pin ones bump into the pin-count, so I've always believed a > smarter limit, is 14 pins. > > Atmel also overlooked ANY xtal modes (?!) in the Tiny10, and it is no > longer that cheap (~55c/10K) > > Contrast that, with the newest MSP430s > - 128 bytes RAM vs 32 > - 14 Pins, [;)] 10 IO, in TSOP14, and 4mm MLF16 > - 25c/100k, or 37c/1K > - It DOES have a 32Khz Xtal mode > (downside: Narrow Vcc range) > > - So this part can make a smart RTC/System Monitor > (for that. you'd likely choose the 46c SPI variant, > or the 49c ADC model, where TI _did_ remember to > include a temperature sensor!! ) > > -jg Someone on the AVR Freaks forum has written some programming software for them. Leon
From: Leon on 3 Mar 2010 17:48 On 3 Mar, 20:30, -jg <jim.granvi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 28, 8:49 am, Antti <antti.luk...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Atmel also overlooked ANY xtal modes (?!) in the Tiny10, and it is no > longer that cheap (~55c/10K) An NXP ARM Cortex-M0 chip only costs 10c more - 65c/10k! Leon
From: Antti on 5 Mar 2010 10:10
On Mar 4, 12:44 am, Leon <leon...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > On 3 Mar, 20:30, -jg <jim.granvi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 28, 8:49 am, Antti <antti.luk...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > it's blinking it's blinking, Atmel's SOT23-6 packaged processor ATtiny10 > > > Interesting part, but whenever we've looked at SOT23 uC, they are > > always pin-bound. > > Even 8 pin ones bump into the pin-count, so I've always believed a > > smarter limit, is 14 pins. > > > Atmel also overlooked ANY xtal modes (?!) in the Tiny10, and it is no > > longer that cheap (~55c/10K) > > > Contrast that, with the newest MSP430s > > - 128 bytes RAM vs 32 > > - 14 Pins, [;)] 10 IO, in TSOP14, and 4mm MLF16 > > - 25c/100k, or 37c/1K > > - It DOES have a 32Khz Xtal mode > > (downside: Narrow Vcc range) > > > - So this part can make a smart RTC/System Monitor > > (for that. you'd likely choose the 46c SPI variant, > > or the 49c ADC model, where TI _did_ remember to > > include a temperature sensor!! ) > > > -jg > > Someone on the AVR Freaks forum has written some programming software > for them. > > Leon there was 100% russian language version of some code that uses some unknown LPT driver library that does not support PCI LPT ports, so I do not think its a very easy to use solution... Antti |