From: ABSDoug on
--- On Tue, 6/8/10, Joe <joe(a)jretrading.com> wrote:

> The first question is whether it picks up anybody's router.
> Is is a wireless problem, or a compatibility problem?
> Actually, the first first question is whether wireless is
> even turned on. I once got my Aspire One into a state where
> the wireless could not be enabled. After an hour or two, I
> turned to other things, and a couple of days later noticed
> that the wireless light was back on. I still have no idea
> why this happened.

Sorry. To be more clear, I get wireless connection in Ubuntu 9.10 & XP, but in Debian, no signal, not mine, not the neighbors.

> As I'm sure you know, Ubuntu is based on Debian, so it
> shouldn't be hard. Personally, while I run a Sid workstation
> and Lenny server, I've gone for Ubuntu Netbook Remix on my
> Aspire One, as Debian is a general-purpose OS, and UNR is
> targeted specifically at netbooks. Horses for courses: I
> wouldn't use Sid on a server, nor, usually, Stable on a
> workstation. I just ignore the Ubuntu kiddie stuff, and I've
> added openvpn and a bit of iptables wrangling.

My reason for coming over to Debian was the latest Ubuntu 10.04. When I run torrents, after a short time I lose connection. Doesn't happen in XP or 9.10. After I tried & failed to get a solution, I started wondering out loud how it was possible Ubuntu *Netbook* addition wasn't working on my netbook. That was when the discussion of Debian stable came up.

> But it shouldn't be hard to see what Ubuntu is running that
> Debian isn't: you have Synaptic on Ubuntu, which I find
> easier for tracking down this kind of issue than aptitude,
> which I prefer for installation and updating. Along with
> lsmod, /var/log/dmesg and a bit of poking about in /etc,
> this should solve the problem.
>
> UNR will run 'live', from a USB stick, so you can see what
> it does with wireless without affecting the Debian
> installation. While there's more than one way to do
> wireless, I'd stick with the way Ubuntu does it, as I know
> that works.

Or does it? It works in 9.10, but not 10.04.

> And no, if I knew more about wireless myself, I'd be more
> specific, I'm just outlining how I'd go about finding the
> trouble.

It seems like I'm in over my head. Sounds like I'd need to take a collage course on Linux or have a LOT of time on my hands. I bought & read a book, but a lot of this stuff is still Latin to me.






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From: Alexander Batischev on
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 11:36:18AM -0700, ABSDoug wrote:
> I do know I want to stick with "stable" Debian
In my opinion, there's no need to do so. Squeeze is close to freeze, soon it
will became stable. You better run it. Personally I run it on my EeePC and have
(almost) no problems. Advantage of running testing is newer drivers. Also you
would not need backports.

>> Search the list archives.� There was a thread on this in February which
>> shows what I did (via some helpful advice from this list) to get wireless
>> going on my Acer Aspire One.
>
> This is all new to me, so I haven't figured out how to search archives. I
> only just found out archives exist.

Archives avaliable at [1]. As I said in some of my earlier replies, go to [2],
scroll down to Archives section, choose month and read!

>> You have received a lot of advice to do some searching/research on this
>> problem, but you do not appear to have done any.� Nor do you appear to have
>> read all the replies that you have already received.
>
> I don't know how, but I was not receiving any replies. I only started seeing
> replies when I started the thread before this one.

And again - all mails sent to list are stored in archive. Go there and read all
responses you missed.

1. http://lists.debian.org/
2. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/
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From: Arthur Machlas on
>On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Alexander Batischev <eual.jp(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 11:36:18AM -0700, ABSDoug wrote:
>> I do know I want to stick with "stable" Debian
>>
> In my opinion, there's no need to do so. Squeeze is close to freeze, soon it
> will became stable. You better run it. Personally I run it on my EeePC and have
> (almost) no problems. Advantage of running testing is newer drivers. Also you
> would not need backports.
>
Agreed. For your netbook Squeeze is the best route. If it makes you
feel better though, aside from the fact that Squeeze will be stable in
the next 6 months or so (crosses fingers), your old Ubuntu friend is a
snapshot of Unstable with some patches and bugfixes.


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From: Mark on
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:51 AM, ABSDoug <absdoug(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> It seems like I'm in over my head. Sounds like I'd need to take a collage
> course on Linux or have a LOT of time on my hands. I bought & read a book,
> but a lot of this stuff is still Latin to me.
>

You're not alone feeling this way starting out on Debian. Don't give up yet
- is wireless the only thing not working? If so, what is the output of
lspci -nn (go to Applications ->Accessories -> Terminal, type "su", enter
your password, then type "lspci -nn" and post the output in your reply to
this email list).

Mark
From: Alexander Batischev on
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 01:14:25PM -0700, Mark wrote:
> type "su", enter your password
su requires password of root, not user's one

P.S. I'm sure you know it and just made a little error, but as far as topic
starter is a novice to terminal, I think such details should be pointed out.

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