From: George Kerby on



On 6/23/10 3:55 PM, in article
2010062313550591745-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom, "Savageduck"
<savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> On 2010-06-23 12:41:24 -0700, "David Ruether" <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> said:
>
>>
>> "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
>> news:2010062217144829267-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom...
>>
>>> I didn't limit myself to one shot on that trip. So I have a few
>>> different shots of the valley trying to do that Adams thing, as
>>> well as some different views of El Capitan, and the ubiquitous Half Dome.
>>> I tried all sorts of different things, but I can't kid myself, Ansel's
>>> work was simply amazing, and I am no Adams. :-(
>>>
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/YValley_DSC0964bwfw.jpg
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ElCap_2bwfw.jpg
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Halfdome_DSC0955bwfw.jpg
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Savageduck
>>
>> Even though I had some early successes with showing and
>> sales of B&W prints to museums (see, for an idea of some:
>> http://www.donferrario.com/ruether/aht1.html,
>> http://www.donferrario.com/ruether/aht2.html,
>> http://www.donferrario.com/ruether/aht3.html, and
>> http://www.donferrario.com/ruether/aht4.html) but these
>> pages show only one of my many museum sales (and one
>> bunch was involved in a funny/complicated/finally-too-bad
>> story about their fate...). Now, though, I accept that I will
>> never be a famous photographer/videographer/painter/
>> graphics-printer/poet/writer/singer/actor/musician/etc., and
>> that what I can do is enjoy the work of others. It's funny how
>> I can approach with pleasure works that I would once have
>> dismissed (and this is now costing me serious money as I
>> collect movies, music, etc...;-).
>> --DR
>
> Very nice. The Finger Lakes and Watkins Glen were one of my stomping
> grounds in the early 70's, as were the Adirondacks between Old Forge
> and Lake Placid.
> ...but you were using a view camera. I am playing with my diminutive
>
> D300 sensor.
>
> BTW, the first three url's are dead.

All work fine here, duck.

From: Peter on
"David Ruether" <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hvto16$3dk$1(a)ruby.cit.cornell.edu...
>
> "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
> news:2010062217144829267-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom...
>
>> I didn't limit myself to one shot on that trip. So I have a few different
>> shots of the valley trying to do that Adams thing, as well as some
>> different views of El Capitan, and the ubiquitous Half Dome.
>> I tried all sorts of different things, but I can't kid myself, Ansel's
>> work was simply amazing, and I am no Adams. :-(
>>
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/YValley_DSC0964bwfw.jpg
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ElCap_2bwfw.jpg
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Halfdome_DSC0955bwfw.jpg
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Savageduck
>
> Even though I had some early successes with showing and
> sales of B&W prints to museums (see, for an idea of some:
> http://www.donferrario.com/ruether/aht1.html,
> http://www.donferrario.com/ruether/aht2.html,
> http://www.donferrario.com/ruether/aht3.html, and
> http://www.donferrario.com/ruether/aht4.html) but these
> pages show only one of my many museum sales (and one
> bunch was involved in a funny/complicated/finally-too-bad
> story about their fate...). Now, though, I accept that I will
> never be a famous photographer/videographer/painter/
> graphics-printer/poet/writer/singer/actor/musician/etc., and
> that what I can do is enjoy the work of others. It's funny how
> I can approach with pleasure works that I would once have
> dismissed (and this is now costing me serious money as I
> collect movies, music, etc...;-).
> --DR
>


I must say I enjoyed looking at your work. Your style is refreshingly
original.

--
Peter

From: whisky-dave on

"Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
news:2010062215015713512-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom...
> On 2010-06-22 13:10:59 -0700, Mike Russell <groupsRE(a)MOVEcurvemeister.com>
> said:
>
>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:21:11 +0100, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:06:41 -0700, Savageduck
>>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>> Anyway here is my pathetic shot of the Valley from the same "Tunnel
>>>> View" position. Alas, no "clearing storm", no view camera, no Adams
>>>> dark room print magic, no $722K.
>>>> ...sigh.
>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/YosemiteValleyBWfw.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> Nothing pathetic about that. It is a very fine shot.
>>
>> Absolutely. BTW, I'm guessing its a scan of a paper print.
>
> Nope. Taken last year with a D300 + 12-24mm @ 24mm.

So it's not an old print doesn't it have to be 50+ tears old
before it's worth anything. ;-)




From: David Ruether on

"Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
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> On 2010-06-23 14:52:23 -0700, "David Ruether" <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> said:
>> "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
>> news:2010062313550591745-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom...

>>> BTW, the first three url's are dead. --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Savageduck

>> Those URLs work for me (from your response post, and from my
>> original [...]

> OK. I see the URL problem. It was the hard terminal comma on the first three.

Did you copy/paste each URL (inadvertantly including the comma),
or click on a URL in your newsreader's display? (Inquiring minds
want to know - so I can get it right...;-).

> A D90 is very carriable. My old D70 is positively tiny and feather weight compared to my D300s + MB-D10. I am considereing the
> addition of a D700, or its replacement to my bag sometime in the future.
>
> I would have thought you would be able to handle a D700/D300 without the additional battery pack MB-D10 without too much problem.
>
> If not, it might be time to get a travelling assistant and camera bearer. ;-) --
> Regards,
>
> Savageduck

The last would be needed...;-( If the camera+lens is too heavy, I
begin to shake violently very quickly after raising them, and soon lose
the strength to hold them up. The FA with a handle remains practical
as does a Sony 707 (and I use braces for shooting with a very light
HD video camera). Sigh....
--DR


From: David Ruether on

"Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message
news:4c22dec2$0$5517$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com...
> "David Ruether" <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote in message news:hvto16$3dk$1(a)ruby.cit.cornell.edu...

>> Even though I had some early successes with showing and
>> sales of B&W prints to museums (see, for an idea of some:
>> http://www.donferrario.com/ruether/aht1.html,
>> http://www.donferrario.com/ruether/aht2.html,
>> http://www.donferrario.com/ruether/aht3.html, and
>> http://www.donferrario.com/ruether/aht4.html) but these
>> pages show only one of my many museum sales (and one
>> bunch was involved in a funny/complicated/finally-too-bad
>> story about their fate...). Now, though, I accept that I will
>> never be a famous photographer/videographer/painter/
>> graphics-printer/poet/writer/singer/actor/musician/etc., and
>> that what I can do is enjoy the work of others. It's funny how
>> I can approach with pleasure works that I would once have
>> dismissed (and this is now costing me serious money as I
>> collect movies, music, etc...;-).
>> --DR

> I must say I enjoyed looking at your work. Your style is refreshingly original. --
> Peter

Thanks. At the beginning (in the late '60s) I preferred to work
very graphically, pushing Panatomic-X to 64 ASA in Rodinol
and using benzotriozole for a limited 5-stop range with a clear
base (and "glittery"-looking negatives). I produced much using
this approach that I still consider the best of my work - but
while I still have the negatives (I hope!), I have misplaced
or lost many of the prints. My next "style" was the reverse,
involving pulling Tri-X to 25 ASA in POTA to give about a
25-stop range. *Everything* included in the frame at once
(from the sun in the sky to room interiors, even in the same
photo) was recorded. Talk about "F L A T"! ;-) But the photos
had their appeal, if not to most photographers (although the
well-known fashion photographer Richard Avedon is reported
to have liked them [ http://www.richardavedon.com/ ] when he
saw the traveling-show catalogue of these photographs...;-).
Oh, I can't resist relating the following...;-) I got a show at the
Everson Museum in Syracuse, and I arrived with the "Soft Images"
show in small metal frames (the prints are about 3 1/3"x5"), and
a bunch of 5"x7" unframed prints of the high-contrast images
mounted on relatively large mattes. I was a little astonished to
find that "my room" had walls maybe 12' (or more) high, so I
decided to double-hang the small prints and place the larger
white mattes over far larger black mattes, held in place by double
sheets of Plexiglas, for which I expected staff help in cleaning
surfaces, assembling, and hanging. I got nothing but "Can you
hurry up - we're closing." comments when anyone came in at all.
The reason for this lack of (useful) attention was that John Lennon
and Yoko Ono were hanging their own show elsewhere in the
museum and all the staff were there... I was too busy hanging my
own show to go see what they were doing, darn! ;-)
--David Ruether
www.donferrario.com/ruether
d_ruether....@....hotmail.com