From: RFI-EMI-GUY on
On 2/23/2010 10:05 PM, ps56k wrote:
> "Rich Webb"<bbew.ar(a)mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote in message
> news:evo8o5pank0carhhjd8664l8iqm82gclcb(a)4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:25:39 -0800, DaveC<invalid(a)invalid.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Garmin makes an "integrated" FM traffic info receiver for some models of
>>> GPS
>>> that allows connection to the car's AM/FM antenna. But not my model (Nuvi
>>> 660); I must use only the GTM20, a cigarette-lighter-powered model:
>>>
>>> <https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=403>
>>>
>>> Benefits of using the car's antenna are mostly stealth: the
>>> cord-that-is-the-antenna between the cigarette lighter (which will be
>>> relocated inside the glove box) and the GPS plug that lays on the
>>> dashboard
>>> makes for an advertisement to crooks. And the car's antenna would,
>>> arguably,
>>> work better.
>>>
>>> What are my options re. adapting the GTM20 to work with the car's antenna?
>>> Could this be as simple as splicing in a motorola antenna plug to the
>>> cable?
>>
>> Belay my last... It looks like the newer GTM-20 models do in fact have
>> a receptacle for a connector to an external antenna. Mic'ing it out, the
>> diameter looks like it takes a 1/8" plug (3.5 mm is too large). The
>> (fuzzy) picture in the manual shows just a tip/ring configuration
>> (reasonable for an antenna) and claims that it's available at the Garmin
>> store. Their store search is abysmally bad, though, so if it's even
>> there it'll take patience finding it.
>>
>> --
>
> Where is the antenna connector you are talking about ?
>
> This photo shows the 12v DC tubular connector - with the 12v center pin
> contact -
> https://buy.garmin.com/shop/alt-image-lg.do?pID=403&img=productImageLarge
> and going to the special 18-pin flat connector for the GPS
> https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=403#specsTab
>
>
>
>
On my Garmin with the GTM-25(?) receiver, there is a boxy looking
dongle in the cable and on the side of that box a small almost invisible
hole for the antenna. Bear in mind if you try to splice this antenna
into the FM/AM antenna on your car, it is very likely the AM sensitivity
will go to heck due to impedance mismatch. If you have an XM/Sirius, the
satellite might even be muxed onto that cable with DC power for the
satellite radio preamplifier.

My theory is that the urbanized locations where I am likely to need the
RDS traffic receiver, there will be sufficient FM broadcast signal
coverage footprint.

I am going to do like another poster suggested and route the GTM-25
cable horizontally under the dash pad and install a switched accessory
outlet under the dashboard.

--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"�

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From: DaveC on
> The "integrated" FM antenna (for traffic info)
> is located inside the power adapter module,
> and does not connect to anything else besides the GPS mini-USB.
> https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=203
>
> Exactly what product connects to "the car's FM antenna" ?

<https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=6395#accessoryTab>

The different pigtail connectors (scroll down) adapt the receiver to the
car's antenna.

> In case you think the GPS receives location info via that FM module,
> it does not.... it is only for traffic info from the radio stations.

Yes I know.

From: DaveC on
> I wired the receiver for my 680 to an accessory jack that's switched
> with other stuff; it's hidden, and the cord to the 680 runs under the
> dash. Everything works well, with the wiring hidden.

My original question is how to tap the FM traffic receiver into the car's
radio antenna.

From: DaveC on
> All of these receivers have the Traffic FM receiver module embedded in the
> DC adapter, on inline on the power cable -
>
> https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=203
>
> AND - as per the manuals -
> some DO HAVE a special connector for an external antenna
> which in the manual appears to be located directly on the inline module...

As far as I could find, only the GTM10 is listed as requiring "professional
installation" (ie, having capability of using the car antenna and/or power
from other than the cigarette lighter):

<https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=6395#accessoryTab>

All others use some kind of cigarette-lighter power adapter and have it's own
antenna.

> In looking over this list - and actually downloading the manuals,
> it's hard to tell the difference between them -
> and the "18-pin flat plug" is for those special CRADLE mounts,
> while others are for the mini-USB on the GPS itself...

It's the cradle-mount FM receiver / power adapter that is unique to the 660
and is found only in the GTM20.

> It is a bit confusing - even have the GTM-20 listed twice,
> but with different hardware features...

In a conversation with Garmin tech support, I learned that there are 2 GTM-20
receivers: pn 010-00544-01 and pn 010-00544-13. The only difference is that
the -13 comes with lifetime traffic service and the -01 comes with a trial
service (6-months or 10 months -- both were offered).

From: ullim on
> Where is the antenna connector you are talking about ?

Hmm the GTM-25 shipped with my 1490T has a stereo mini-jack plug for antenna
cable (included in the package) on the side of the receiver.

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