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From: PD on 8 Dec 2009 13:33 On Dec 8, 12:30 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The only thing which physically exists throughout the universe is > matter. Aether is matter's base state. > > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html > > "What is fundamentally new in the ether of the general theory of > relativity as opposed to the ether of Lorentz consists in this, that > the state of the former is at every place determined by connections > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places" > > The state of the aether is its state of displacement. But it's a squirrel, you see...
From: mpc755 on 8 Dec 2009 13:49 The only thing which physically exists throughout the universe is matter. Aether is matter's base state. 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein' http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html "What is fundamentally new in the ether of the general theory of relativity as opposed to the ether of Lorentz consists in this, that the state of the former is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places" The state of the aether is its state of displacement.
From: NoEinstein on 8 Dec 2009 13:49 On Nov 29, 8:23 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > Dear glird: Your opening statement seems to say... "When ether is moved, it doesn't rest." (That's quite 'profound', but probably not what you thought you were saying.) Gravity, indeed, relates to what happens with the ether. "Varying ether flow and density", even within matter, is the MECHANISM of gravity. Matter doesn't displace ether, it admits the ether in proportion to the internal loss of ether from light or heat emissions. Flowing ether (gravity) is slowed down in passing through matter in direct proportion to the atomic weight of the matter. That is why massive objects have more... 'weight'. NoEinstein > > On Nov 29, 1:34 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >< Aether is an elastic medium and does not rest when displaced. It pushes back. When matter displaces the aether, the pressure the aether exerts back towards the matter is gravity. > > > No, mpc; gravity isn't a pressure exerted ON an object. A > "gravitational field" is a density gradient in the continuous material > that you call "aether". (I call it "matter", As you say, it is the > very same matter out of which atoms and molecules and the Earth etc > are made.) As you said, it is an elastic medium with one active > property: "It presses back". Accordingly, it exerts an outwardly > directed pressure ("sorce"} from every needle-sharp point it fills, > the denser the local medium is the stronger the reactive pressure will > be. > Given by the physics textbooks that "weight is a force", the > "gravitational force", i,e, the weight of a given mass, is a function > of two different things: A) the "shape" of the density gradient (grad > d) of the field; B) the normal shape of the gradients of the atoms > comprising that mass. (A mass is a quantity of matter, whether or not > it has weight in a g-field. The "normal shape" of the gradient per > atom means its shape when the atom is far from any g-field.) > Because all local matter is part of any g-field, A and B govern the > shape of the density gradient of any embedded atom. > Since a g-field is always centered on a specifiable object, the > gradient in embedded atoms will be steeper on the side toward that > causative object. Given that the pressure increases as the density > does, the net pressure that arises INSIDE embedded atoms will b toward > the denser side of the grad d of the g-field; thus "downward" wrt > Earth. > > >< When a C-60 molecule is used in a double slit experiment, the displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether enters and exits multiple slits > > > Yes, and as it transits a slit it is closer to one side than the > other. Since the net gradient per wave decrease with the distance from > its own center, so will the strength of its affects on the material > comprising the wall. There will therefore be a local density gradient > in the material filling the hole AND the matter comprising the wall. > Given that the resistance is stronger on and in the denser zones, the > path of each successive molecule and/or wave system that transits a > slit will be affected accordingly.>[Einstein wrote} "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether > and matter is energy. >> > > Energy is the ability to do work, possessed by and exerted upon > matter. Work is mass times the distance it is moved. If matter could > be converted into energy -- as physics now claims -- and ALL the > matter in the universe so converted, the amount of mass that remained, > thus the ability to do work, would be e = md = zero. > The definition of energy was Ok; but the notion that matter can be > converted into energy was baloney - in grams of weight, which is a > force not a material. > > glird
From: mpc755 on 8 Dec 2009 13:59 The 'aether is not at rest when displaced' is my statement, not glird's. glird and I have similar concepts about how aether (or if I can interpret glird's preferred description of 'empty space', 'matter in its base state') is displaced by matter. When you say, 'Flowing ether (gravity) is slowed down in passing through matter in direct proportion to the atomic weight of the matter', that is Aether Displacement. What happens to the aether in front of the C-60 molecule that is being 'slowed down' by the C-60 molecule? It is being displaced by the C-60 molecule. Think about what you are saying as to 'Flowing ether is slowed down by passing through matter' and relate that to a boat and its bow wave. If the boat had tiny holes drilled throughout it where some of the water was able to pass through the boat, the water which was 'slowed down' relative to the boat is the bow wave. The same thing occurs when a C-60 molecule is used in a double slit experiment. Some small amount of aether my be flowing through the C-60 molecule, but the great majority of aether is being displaced by the moving C-60 molecule. In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit because it always exits a single slit and it is the displacement wave (i.e. bow wave) the C-60 molecule creates in the aether which enters and exits multiple slits. On Dec 8, 1:49 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > On Nov 29, 8:23 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > Dear glird: Your opening statement seems to say... "When ether is > moved, it doesn't rest." (That's quite 'profound', but probably not > what you thought you were saying.) Gravity, indeed, relates to what > happens with the ether. "Varying ether flow and density", even within > matter, is the MECHANISM of gravity. Matter doesn't displace ether, > it admits the ether in proportion to the internal loss of ether from > light or heat emissions. Flowing ether (gravity) is slowed down in > passing through matter in direct proportion to the atomic weight of > the matter. That is why massive objects have more... 'weight'. > NoEinstein > > > > > On Nov 29, 1:34 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >< Aether is an elastic medium and does not rest when displaced. It pushes back. When matter displaces the aether, the pressure the aether exerts back towards the matter is gravity. > >
From: BURT on 8 Dec 2009 15:43
On Dec 8, 7:57 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The only thing we truly know physically exists throughout the universe > is matter. Aether is matter's base state. Its just the reverse. That is why the aether is not accepted but energy is. Mitch Raemsch |