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From: mpc755 on 9 Dec 2009 11:37 On Nov 27, 10:23 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Aether is an elastic medium and does not rest when displaced. It > pushes back. When matter displaces the aether, the pressure the aether > exerts back towards the matter is gravity. > > When a C-60 molecule is used in a double slit experiment, the > displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether enters and > exits multiple slits while the C-60 molecule enters and exits a single > slit. > > A=Mc^2 where A is aether and M is matter. > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. > EINSTEIN'http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > diminishes by L/c2." > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether > and matter is energy. When discussing the concept of the Sun 'curving' 'spacetime', what is being curved? It cannot be three dimensional space because the Sun now occupies that three dimensional space and in terms of three dimensional space, nothing has changed. So, the Sun is 'curving' something. The Sun is 'curving' something physical. The Sun is 'curving' some kind of stuff. Aether, quantum foam, plenum,... are all labels placed on the 'stuff of space'. Yes, aether has a lot of baggage, but it is what it is. And 'displaced' is a better concept than 'curved'. Displaced not only works for 'curved' spacetime, but also works for the observed behaviors of a double slit experiment with C-60 molecules. The moving C-60 molecule displaces aether which forms a wave, just like a boat creates a bow wave in water. So, it's Aether Displacement. Aether Displacement: The most correct physical unified theory to date.
From: glird on 9 Dec 2009 12:22 On Dec 8, 4:15 pm, mpc755 wrote: On Dec 8, 1:49 pm, NoEinstein wrote: >< Dear glird: Your opening statement seems to say... "When ether is moved, it doesn't rest." (That's quite 'profound', but probably not what you thought you were saying.) Gravity, indeed, relates to what happens with the ether. {1} "Varying ether flow and density", even within matter, is the MECHANISM of gravity. {2} Matter doesn't displace ether {3}, it admits the ether in proportion to the internal loss of ether from light or heat emissions. {4} Flowing ether (gravity) is slowed in passing through matter in direct proportion to the atomic weight of the matter. {5} 1. YES. 2. No. 3. Wrong! Even an atom displaces the background matter, 4. Where did you get the idea that the emission of light or heat is associated with the internal loss of ether in the source-body? Even though that is correct!!! (see "the flower" - an equation for the value of Planck's quantum of action, h) it has nothing to do with ether flowing back. Indeed, if the amount of ether that flowed in was equal to the amount that flowed out, then neither light nor heat nor anything else would be emitted. 5. Every part of that statement is false. mpc: The 'aether is not at rest when displaced' is my statement, not glird's. glird and I have similar concepts about how aether (or if I can interpret glird's preferred description of 'empty space', 'matter in its base state') is displaced by matter. When you say, 'Flowing ether (gravity) is slowed down in passing through matter in direct proportion to the atomic weight of the matter', that is Aether Displacement. > It is false regardless of how it is said. Gravity is not an aether flow nor is it caused by aether flowing through or past particles. Indeed, in the dilute vacuum of outer space there is such an ENORMOUS number of atoms per square cm that there is no place where even a small unit such as a molecule could displace matter in its base (i.e. non-particulate) state. (Actually, at subatomic levels of size there is no such thing as a homogenous material. That's why Einstein was right in using deltax'/ delta/x instead of dx'/dx. It's also why, however, there is no such thing at any level of size as an inertially moving system! And THAT - believe it or not - is why the "Restricted" theory of relativity is and always was a figment of the imagination; while GR, which maps the structure and rates of actions at ALL levels of size, actually does fit physical reality. mpc: What happens to the aether in front of the C-60 molecule that is being 'slowed down' by the C-60 molecule? It is being displaced by the C-60 molecule. {1} Think about what you are saying as to 'Flowing ether is slowed down by passing through matter' and relate that to a boat and its bow wave. {2} If the boat had tiny holes drilled throughout it where some of the water was able to pass through the boat, the water which was 'slowed down' relative to the boat is the bow wave. {3} The same thing occurs when a C-60 molecule is used in a double slit experiment. Some small amount of aether may be flowing through the C-60 molecule, but the great majority of aether is being displaced by the moving C-60 molecule. {3a} In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit because it always exits a single slit {4} and it is the displacement wave (i.e. bow wave) the C-60 molecule creates in the aether which enters and exits multiple slits. (5) 1. When a molecule moves it displaces the material filling he local space. in the process of being displaced, the material flows around the molecule or any other discrete moving object. 2. Yes, that displaced material is analogous to a bow wave, but it had speeded up rather than slowed down in the process of passing the boat. On the atomic scale of size, there are several other things that happen as a consequence of that process. One is that the density changes in the displaced matter and as that happens so does the pressure. Another is that the direction of a vector representing the pressure against the sides of a moving object has 2 components, one perpendicular to the surface and the other aslant. Therefore the net pressure against the surface of a displacing object will have dropped, compared to the wider field, so matter will be pushed toward that surface from BOTH sides, the outside and the inside. THAT is the mechanism by which atoms form. 3. A molecule has no holes. It has a surface tension layer that is denser than that of the material it surrounds and FAR denser than the outside material through which it is able to move. 3a. ALL of the surrounding ether is displaced. Even so, because all matter is compressible, the amount of that displacement per unit volume rapidly decreases as the distance from the displacing surface increases. 4. At best, the word "always" renders that entire sentence a tautology. {At worst, if "the C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit because it always exits a single slit" then "In Aether Displacement" is irrelevant.} 5. Yes, but... glird
From: mpc755 on 9 Dec 2009 12:29 On Dec 9, 12:22 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Dec 8, 4:15 pm, mpc755 wrote: > On Dec 8, 1:49 pm, NoEinstein wrote:>< Dear glird: Your opening statement seems to say... > > "When ether is moved, it doesn't rest." (That's quite 'profound', > but probably not what you thought you were saying.) Gravity, indeed, > relates to what happens with the ether. {1} "Varying ether flow and > density", even within matter, is the MECHANISM of gravity. {2} Matter > doesn't displace ether {3}, it admits the ether in proportion to the > internal loss of ether from light or heat emissions. {4} Flowing ether > (gravity) is slowed in passing through matter in direct proportion to > the atomic weight of the matter. {5} > > 1. YES. > 2. No. > 3. Wrong! Even an atom displaces the background matter, > 4. Where did you get the idea that the emission of light or heat is > associated with the internal loss of ether in the source-body? Even > though that is correct!!! (see "the flower" - an equation for the > value of Planck's quantum of action, h) it has nothing to do with > ether flowing back. Indeed, if the amount of ether that flowed in was > equal to the amount that flowed out, then neither light nor heat nor > anything else would be emitted. > 5. Every part of that statement is false. > > mpc: The 'aether is not at rest when displaced' is my statement, not > glird's. glird and I have similar concepts about how aether (or if I > can interpret glird's preferred description of 'empty space', 'matter > in its base state') is displaced by matter. > When you say, 'Flowing ether (gravity) is slowed down in passing > through matter in direct proportion to the atomic weight of the > matter', that is Aether Displacement. > > > It is false regardless of how it is said. > Gravity is not an aether flow nor is it caused by aether flowing > through or past particles. Indeed, in the dilute vacuum of outer space > there is such an ENORMOUS number of atoms per square cm that there is > no place where even a small unit such as a molecule could displace > matter in its base (i.e. non-particulate) state. > (Actually, at subatomic levels of size there is no such thing as a > homogenous material. That's why Einstein was right in using deltax'/ > delta/x instead of dx'/dx. It's also why, however, there is no such > thing at any level of size as an inertially moving system! > And THAT - believe it or not - is why the "Restricted" theory of > relativity is and always was a figment of the imagination; while GR, > which maps the structure and rates of actions at ALL levels of size, > actually does fit physical reality. > > mpc: What happens to the aether in front of the C-60 molecule that is > being 'slowed down' by the C-60 molecule? It is being displaced by the > C-60 molecule. {1} > Think about what you are saying as to 'Flowing ether is slowed down > by passing through matter' and relate that to a boat and its bow wave. > {2} If the boat had tiny holes drilled throughout it where some of the > water was able to pass through the boat, the water which was 'slowed > down' > relative to the boat is the bow wave. {3} > The same thing occurs when a C-60 molecule is used in a double slit > experiment. Some small amount of aether may be flowing through the > C-60 molecule, but the great majority of aether is being displaced by > the moving C-60 molecule. {3a} > In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule is always detected exiting > a single slit because it always exits a single slit {4} and it is the > displacement wave (i.e. bow wave) the C-60 molecule creates in the > aether which enters and exits multiple slits. (5) > > 1. When a molecule moves it displaces the material filling he local > space. in the process of being displaced, the material flows around > the molecule or any other discrete moving object. > 2. Yes, that displaced material is analogous to a bow wave, but it had > speeded up rather than slowed down in the process of passing the > boat. > On the atomic scale of size, there are several other things that > happen as a consequence of that process. One is that the density > changes in the displaced matter and as that happens so does the > pressure. Another is that the direction of a vector representing the > pressure against the sides of a moving object has 2 components, one > perpendicular to the surface and the other aslant. Therefore the net > pressure against the surface of a displacing object will have dropped, > compared to the wider field, so matter will be pushed toward that > surface from BOTH sides, the outside and the inside. THAT is the > mechanism by which atoms form. > 3. A molecule has no holes. > It has a surface tension layer that is denser than that of the > material it surrounds and FAR denser than the outside material through > which it is able to move. > 3a. ALL of the surrounding ether is displaced. Even so, because all > matter is compressible, the amount of that displacement per unit > volume rapidly decreases as the distance from the displacing surface > increases. > 4. At best, the word "always" renders that entire sentence a > tautology. {At worst, if "the C-60 molecule is always detected > exiting a single slit because it always exits a single slit" then "In > Aether Displacement" is irrelevant.} > 5. Yes, but... > > glird In the photoelectric effect, when the photon interacts with the metallic surface, the photon collapses into a quantum of aether and this quantum of aether physically 'enters' and occupies three dimensional space within the metal, causing an electron to be emitted.
From: glird on 9 Dec 2009 12:46 On Dec 8, 7:05 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > >> > Gravity, indeed, relates to what happens with the ether> > >< So why, if there are two masses sitting in space, does the 'aether' make them accelerate toward each other. But if there is one object, it just sits there. > It isn't the aether per se that causes that to happen, it is the density gradient IN and OF the aether that causes an accelerative force to arise INSIDE of each embedded body. >< If anything, the presence of one mass displacing aether would push the other object away, not bring them closer. > In my terms, "the aether" denotes the continuous aspect of the material in a given space; whether or not it is homogeneous and even if discrete particles are present as parts of that one continuous field. The presence of one particle DOES displace some of the material that would otherwise have been there, and the displacement wave WOULD push two particles apart. But that has nothing to do with gravity. glird
From: mpc755 on 9 Dec 2009 13:51
On Dec 9, 12:46 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Dec 8, 7:05 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > > > >> > Gravity, indeed, relates to what happens with the ether> > > >< So why, if there are two masses sitting in space, does the 'aether' make them accelerate toward each other. But if there is one object, it just sits there. > > > It isn't the aether per se that causes that to happen, it is the > density gradient IN and OF the aether that causes an accelerative > force to arise INSIDE of each embedded body. > > >< If anything, the presence of one mass displacing aether would push the other object away, not bring them closer. > > > In my terms, "the aether" denotes the continuous aspect of the > material in a given space; whether or not it is homogeneous and even > if discrete particles are present as parts of that one continuous > field. > The presence of one particle DOES displace some of the material that > would otherwise have been there, and the displacement wave WOULD push > two particles apart. But that has nothing to do with gravity. > > glird I prefer the concept of what we consider to be the Sun to end where the matter (i.e. non-aether matter) of the Sun ends. Again, if you have a bowling ball with a million tiny wholes drilled throughout it and you put it in a tube of water and you spin it, water exists throughout the bowling ball but we consider the bowling ball to be the matter which is not the water. The Sun is creating a displacement wave (i.e. gravity wave) but this wave is not going to push the planets away from the Sun. The Sun's displaced aether which extends to the edge of the solar system and is pushing back is gravity. I also prefer to stay away from using the term 'density' when discussing displaced aether. For now at least, we are better off just discussing Aether Displacement in terms of pressure. When the bowling ball is places into the tank of water, the water is displaced. The water exerts a pressure back towards the bowling ball but we do not discuss the 'density' of the water. There has always been a pressure (pun intended) to add in the property of density, but the less properties we apply to the aether the better and the property the aether does require at this point is to not be at rest when displaced and to be matter when compressed. |