From: mpc755 on
On Jul 6, 11:04 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 6, 7:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 6, 10:53 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 6, 7:51 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 6, 9:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jul 6, 7:41 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Jul 5, 8:55 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > 'Mysterious Cosmic 'Dark Flow' Tracked Deeper into Universe'http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/releases/2010/10-023.html
>
> > > > > > > 'The clusters appear to be moving along a line extending from our
> > > > > > > solar system toward Centaurus/Hydra, but the direction of this motion
> > > > > > > is less certain. Evidence indicates that the clusters are headed
> > > > > > > outward along this path, away from Earth, but the team cannot yet rule
> > > > > > > out the opposite flow. "We detect motion along this axis, but right
> > > > > > > now our data cannot state as strongly as we'd like whether the
> > > > > > > clusters are coming or going," Kashlinsky said.'
>
> > > > > > > The clusters are headed along this path because the Universe, or the
> > > > > > > local Universe we exist in, is a jet stream.
>
> > > > > > It is so nice to see mpc relegated to discussions with loons,
> > > > > > including himself. It probably keeps Mike just under the psychosis
> > > > > > breaking point to just be able to splutter and foam, and it confines
> > > > > > the noise to a narrow corner of the newsgroup.
>
> > > > > Why is everything redshifted in every direction we care to look?
>
> > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > Because the Universe is, or the local Universe we exist in is, a jet
> > > > stream where matter is moving directionally and outward until it 'goes
> > > > over the waterfall' and winds up back at the Universe 'disk' (i.e.
> > > > Rindler Horizon):
>
> > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics
>
> > > > The following image of a black hole is analogous to the 'Universe':
>
> > > >http://structureofentropy.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/blackhole.jpg-H...text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > A jet stream wouldn't have any shift at all because everything would
> > > be moving with it in the same direction. This is not what we see at
> > > all.
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > The jet stream is not just moving, it is moving outward. The following
> > is an image of a jet stream:
>
> >http://www.vcharkarn.com/uploads/19/19710.jpg-Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> You should let people know that it is radial in nature and has a
> beginning center. I don't hardly ever follow links but the image you
> provided helped.
>
> A river or stream is linear not radial.
>
> Mitch Raemsch

If you click on the links it will help you visualize what is being
discussed.

The matter and dark matter may 'go over the water fall' and wind up at
the disk:

http://structureofentropy.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/blackhole.jpg

Where it is eventually re-emitted into the 'Universe'.

The disk is the Rindler Horizon:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics
From: BURT on
On Jul 6, 8:16 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 6, 11:04 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 6, 7:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 6, 10:53 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 6, 7:51 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jul 6, 9:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jul 6, 7:41 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 5, 8:55 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > 'Mysterious Cosmic 'Dark Flow' Tracked Deeper into Universe'http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/releases/2010/10-023.html
>
> > > > > > > > 'The clusters appear to be moving along a line extending from our
> > > > > > > > solar system toward Centaurus/Hydra, but the direction of this motion
> > > > > > > > is less certain. Evidence indicates that the clusters are headed
> > > > > > > > outward along this path, away from Earth, but the team cannot yet rule
> > > > > > > > out the opposite flow. "We detect motion along this axis, but right
> > > > > > > > now our data cannot state as strongly as we'd like whether the
> > > > > > > > clusters are coming or going," Kashlinsky said.'
>
> > > > > > > > The clusters are headed along this path because the Universe, or the
> > > > > > > > local Universe we exist in, is a jet stream.
>
> > > > > > > It is so nice to see mpc relegated to discussions with loons,
> > > > > > > including himself. It probably keeps Mike just under the psychosis
> > > > > > > breaking point to just be able to splutter and foam, and it confines
> > > > > > > the noise to a narrow corner of the newsgroup.
>
> > > > > > Why is everything redshifted in every direction we care to look?
>
> > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > Because the Universe is, or the local Universe we exist in is, a jet
> > > > > stream where matter is moving directionally and outward until it 'goes
> > > > > over the waterfall' and winds up back at the Universe 'disk' (i.e..
> > > > > Rindler Horizon):
>
> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics
>
> > > > > The following image of a black hole is analogous to the 'Universe':
>
> > > > >http://structureofentropy.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/blackhole.jpg-H...-
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > A jet stream wouldn't have any shift at all because everything would
> > > > be moving with it in the same direction. This is not what we see at
> > > > all.
>
> > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > The jet stream is not just moving, it is moving outward. The following
> > > is an image of a jet stream:
>
> > >http://www.vcharkarn.com/uploads/19/19710.jpg-Hidequoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > You should let people know that it is radial in nature and has a
> > beginning center. I don't hardly ever follow links but the image you
> > provided helped.
>
> > A river or stream is linear not radial.
>
> > Mitch Raemsch
>
> If you click on the links it will help you visualize what is being
> discussed.
>
> The matter and dark matter may 'go over the water fall' and wind up at
> the disk:
>
> http://structureofentropy.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/blackhole.jpg
>
> Where it is eventually re-emitted into the 'Universe'.
>
> The disk is the Rindler Horizon:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You know our geometry of space and its geodesics were only a first
shot? These will all be transcended in the soon future.

You have a round space aether distance that effects motion of matter
in gravity.

Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on
On Jul 6, 11:21 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 6, 8:16 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 6, 11:04 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 6, 7:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 6, 10:53 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jul 6, 7:51 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jul 6, 9:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 6, 7:41 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 8:55 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > 'Mysterious Cosmic 'Dark Flow' Tracked Deeper into Universe'http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/releases/2010/10-023.html
>
> > > > > > > > > 'The clusters appear to be moving along a line extending from our
> > > > > > > > > solar system toward Centaurus/Hydra, but the direction of this motion
> > > > > > > > > is less certain. Evidence indicates that the clusters are headed
> > > > > > > > > outward along this path, away from Earth, but the team cannot yet rule
> > > > > > > > > out the opposite flow. "We detect motion along this axis, but right
> > > > > > > > > now our data cannot state as strongly as we'd like whether the
> > > > > > > > > clusters are coming or going," Kashlinsky said.'
>
> > > > > > > > > The clusters are headed along this path because the Universe, or the
> > > > > > > > > local Universe we exist in, is a jet stream.
>
> > > > > > > > It is so nice to see mpc relegated to discussions with loons,
> > > > > > > > including himself. It probably keeps Mike just under the psychosis
> > > > > > > > breaking point to just be able to splutter and foam, and it confines
> > > > > > > > the noise to a narrow corner of the newsgroup.
>
> > > > > > > Why is everything redshifted in every direction we care to look?
>
> > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > > Because the Universe is, or the local Universe we exist in is, a jet
> > > > > > stream where matter is moving directionally and outward until it 'goes
> > > > > > over the waterfall' and winds up back at the Universe 'disk' (i..e.
> > > > > > Rindler Horizon):
>
> > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics
>
> > > > > > The following image of a black hole is analogous to the 'Universe':
>
> > > > > >http://structureofentropy.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/blackhole.jpg-H...
>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > A jet stream wouldn't have any shift at all because everything would
> > > > > be moving with it in the same direction. This is not what we see at
> > > > > all.
>
> > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > The jet stream is not just moving, it is moving outward. The following
> > > > is an image of a jet stream:
>
> > > >http://www.vcharkarn.com/uploads/19/19710.jpg-Hidequotedtext -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > You should let people know that it is radial in nature and has a
> > > beginning center. I don't hardly ever follow links but the image you
> > > provided helped.
>
> > > A river or stream is linear not radial.
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > If you click on the links it will help you visualize what is being
> > discussed.
>
> > The matter and dark matter may 'go over the water fall' and wind up at
> > the disk:
>
> >http://structureofentropy.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/blackhole.jpg
>
> > Where it is eventually re-emitted into the 'Universe'.
>
> > The disk is the Rindler Horizon:
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics-Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> You know our geometry of space and its geodesics were only a first
> shot? These will all be transcended in the soon future.
>
> You have a round space aether distance that effects motion of matter
> in gravity.
>
> Mitch Raemsch

Aether effects motion by being displaced by matter. The aether is a
frictionless superfluid one-something. A moving particle has an
associated aether wave. The aether wave creates interference upon
exiting the slits and effects the motion of the particle. Detecting
the particle causes decoherence of the associate aether wave (i.e.
turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.

The analogy is a boat and its bow wave.

Pressure exerted by displaced aether towards matter is gravity.

Dark Matter = aether
Dark Energy = The state of the aether
Dark Flow = The state of the aether
Dark Fluid = The state of the aether

"The state of the aether is determined by its connections with the
matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places ...
disregarding the causes which condition its state." - Albert Einstein

The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
aether's state of displacement.

The cause which conditions its state is its displacement by matter.