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From: mpc755 on 11 Apr 2010 17:31 On Apr 11, 4:34 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > The aether is immaterial in its substance. > > Mitch Raemsch Aether and matter are different states of the same material. Matter and aether have mass. Einstein, de Broglie, and Lorentz, among others, were mathematically correct. Where Einstein was incorrect was in thinking everything is relative. Everything is with respect to the aether. Where Lorentz was incorrect was thinking aether is an absolutely stationary space. Aether is displaced by matter. de Broglie was the most correct. de Broglie never completed Wave Mechanics by understanding the moving particle has an associated aether wave. The following is an image of the aether's state of displacement as determined by its connections with the matter: http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2005/11/16/16nov_gpb_resources/vortex1_crop.jpg The moving particle having an associated aether wave is evidence the aether is material.
From: mpc755 on 11 Apr 2010 17:35 On Apr 11, 4:34 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > The aether is immaterial in its substance. > > Mitch Raemsch Aether and matter are different states of the same material. Matter and aether have mass. Einstein, de Broglie, and Lorentz, among others, were mathematically correct. Where Einstein was incorrect was in thinking everything is relative. Everything is with respect to the aether. Where Lorentz was incorrect was thinking aether is an absolutely stationary space. Aether is displaced by matter. de Broglie was the most correct. de Broglie never completed Wave Mechanics by understanding the moving particle has an associated aether wave. The moving particle having an associated aether wave is evidence the aether is material. The following is an image of the aether's state of displacement as determined by its connections with the matter: http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2005/11/16/16nov_gpb_resources/vortex1_crop.jpg
From: BURT on 11 Apr 2010 17:36 On Apr 5, 3:23 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 5, 5:44 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 5, 6:41 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 5, 2:22 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 4, 9:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 5, 12:48 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I only say what I think is important and the truth is broad. > > > > > > > Light at the two slits collapses the aether wave not an observer. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > I know this is pointless because you can not help yourself, but your > > > > > post has nothing to do with Aether Displacement. > > > > > > I know this is pointless because you can not help yourself, but unless > > > > > you have a post which is specific to Aether Displacement, please start > > > > > your own thread. > > > > > > The aether wave associated with the C-60 molecule does not collapse > > > > > because of light. Light propagates as a wave. The moving C-60 molecule > > > > > has an associated aether displacement wave. The associated aether > > > > > displacement wave and the light wave interact. > > > > > > The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit in a double > > > > > slit experiment. It is the associated aether displacement wave which > > > > > enters and exits the available slits. The aether displacement wave > > > > > creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction > > > > > the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes > > > > > decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it > > > > > into chop) and there is no interference. > > > > > But we are talking about an aether wave. This can collapse. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > A wave collapses when detected. Waves do not cause waves to collapse. > > > Waves can cancel each other. > > > >http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/Ultrasonics....quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Detection is not necessary; only light substance. > > The light wave form does cause the matter aether wave to collapse at > > the two slits. This is why there is no longer the wave interference > > pattern at the screen. They simply pile up behind the two holes when > > waveless. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > Incorrect. Something other than a wave must physically interact with > the aether wave in order to cause it to collapse. > > The aether wave associated with the C-60 molecule does not collapse > because of light. Light propagates as a wave. The moving C-60 molecule > has an associated aether displacement wave. The associated aether > displacement wave and the light wave interact. > > The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit in a double > slit experiment. It is the associated aether displacement wave which > enters and exits the available slits. The aether displacement wave > creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction > the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes > decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it > into chop) and there is no interference.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Things happen in the presence of light. For instance at the two holes the light collapses the aether wave and there is no interference. Bond is also effected by light. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 11 Apr 2010 17:38 On Apr 11, 5:36 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Apr 5, 3:23 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 5, 5:44 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 5, 6:41 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 5, 2:22 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 4, 9:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 5, 12:48 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > I only say what I think is important and the truth is broad. > > > > > > > > Light at the two slits collapses the aether wave not an observer. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > I know this is pointless because you can not help yourself, but your > > > > > > post has nothing to do with Aether Displacement. > > > > > > > I know this is pointless because you can not help yourself, but unless > > > > > > you have a post which is specific to Aether Displacement, please start > > > > > > your own thread. > > > > > > > The aether wave associated with the C-60 molecule does not collapse > > > > > > because of light. Light propagates as a wave. The moving C-60 molecule > > > > > > has an associated aether displacement wave. The associated aether > > > > > > displacement wave and the light wave interact. > > > > > > > The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit in a double > > > > > > slit experiment. It is the associated aether displacement wave which > > > > > > enters and exits the available slits. The aether displacement wave > > > > > > creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction > > > > > > the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes > > > > > > decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it > > > > > > into chop) and there is no interference. > > > > > > But we are talking about an aether wave. This can collapse. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > A wave collapses when detected. Waves do not cause waves to collapse. > > > > Waves can cancel each other. > > > > >http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/Ultrasonics...text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Detection is not necessary; only light substance. > > > The light wave form does cause the matter aether wave to collapse at > > > the two slits. This is why there is no longer the wave interference > > > pattern at the screen. They simply pile up behind the two holes when > > > waveless. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > Incorrect. Something other than a wave must physically interact with > > the aether wave in order to cause it to collapse. > > > The aether wave associated with the C-60 molecule does not collapse > > because of light. Light propagates as a wave. The moving C-60 molecule > > has an associated aether displacement wave. The associated aether > > displacement wave and the light wave interact. > > > The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit in a double > > slit experiment. It is the associated aether displacement wave which > > enters and exits the available slits. The aether displacement wave > > creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction > > the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes > > decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it > > into chop) and there is no interference.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Things happen in the presence of light. For instance at the two holes > the light collapses the aether wave and there is no interference. Bond > is also effected by light. > > Mitch Raemsch Do we really have to go back to this absurd nonsense? Waves do not cause other waves to collapse. Waves interact and then continue on. You are confusing the aether waves propagating through the slits with the photon 'particle' being detected. The photon aether wave collapses when the photon 'particle' is detected giving the photon its detectable spin.
From: BURT on 11 Apr 2010 17:59
On Apr 11, 2:38 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 11, 5:36 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 5, 3:23 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 5, 5:44 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 5, 6:41 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 5, 2:22 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 4, 9:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Apr 5, 12:48 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I only say what I think is important and the truth is broad.. > > > > > > > > > Light at the two slits collapses the aether wave not an observer. > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > I know this is pointless because you can not help yourself, but your > > > > > > > post has nothing to do with Aether Displacement. > > > > > > > > I know this is pointless because you can not help yourself, but unless > > > > > > > you have a post which is specific to Aether Displacement, please start > > > > > > > your own thread. > > > > > > > > The aether wave associated with the C-60 molecule does not collapse > > > > > > > because of light. Light propagates as a wave. The moving C-60 molecule > > > > > > > has an associated aether displacement wave. The associated aether > > > > > > > displacement wave and the light wave interact. > > > > > > > > The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit in a double > > > > > > > slit experiment. It is the associated aether displacement wave which > > > > > > > enters and exits the available slits. The aether displacement wave > > > > > > > creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction > > > > > > > the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes > > > > > > > decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it > > > > > > > into chop) and there is no interference. > > > > > > > But we are talking about an aether wave. This can collapse. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > A wave collapses when detected. Waves do not cause waves to collapse. > > > > > Waves can cancel each other. > > > > > >http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/Ultrasonics...- > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > Detection is not necessary; only light substance. > > > > The light wave form does cause the matter aether wave to collapse at > > > > the two slits. This is why there is no longer the wave interference > > > > pattern at the screen. They simply pile up behind the two holes when > > > > waveless. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > Incorrect. Something other than a wave must physically interact with > > > the aether wave in order to cause it to collapse. > > > > The aether wave associated with the C-60 molecule does not collapse > > > because of light. Light propagates as a wave. The moving C-60 molecule > > > has an associated aether displacement wave. The associated aether > > > displacement wave and the light wave interact. > > > > The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit in a double > > > slit experiment. It is the associated aether displacement wave which > > > enters and exits the available slits. The aether displacement wave > > > creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction > > > the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes > > > decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it > > > into chop) and there is no interference.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Things happen in the presence of light. For instance at the two holes > > the light collapses the aether wave and there is no interference. Bond > > is also effected by light. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > Do we really have to go back to this absurd nonsense? Waves do not > cause other waves to collapse. Waves interact and then continue on. > You are confusing the aether waves propagating through the slits with > the photon 'particle' being detected. The photon aether wave collapses > when the photon 'particle' is detected giving the photon its > detectable spin.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Call it what you want roy. It is the truth. Light flow sets up an order of time by aether waves. Mitch Raemsch |