From: mpc755 on
On Apr 15, 11:25 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 15, 6:25 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Apr 15, 7:23 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 15, 3:53 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Apr 15, 3:40 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > Inward radial space flow is the order of the strength of gravity. The
> > > > > distance from the center determines the strength.
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> > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter.
>
> > > > The following image represents the aether's state of displacement as
> > > > determined by its connections with the matter. The image would be more
> > > > accurate if the grid connected to and through the Earth. This would
> > > > more accurately reflect Einstein's concept of the state of the aether
> > > > is determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the
> > > > aether in neighboring places:
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> > > >http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2005/11/16/16nov_gpb_resou...
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> > > Expansion of the universal aether is driven by emptiness 4D aether.
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter.
>
> > The following image represents the aether's state of displacement as
> > determined by its connections with the matter. The image would be more
> > accurate if the grid connected to and through the Earth. This would
> > more accurately reflect Einstein's concept of the state of the aether
> > is determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the
> > aether in neighboring places:
>
> >http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2005/11/16/16nov_gpb_resou...
>
> > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity
> > by
> > Albert Einstein'
>
> > "What is fundamentally new in the ether of the general theory of
> > relativity as opposed to the ether of Lorentz consists in this, that
> > the state of the former is at every place determined by connections
> > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places,
> > which are amenable to law in the form of differential equations;
> > whereas the state of the Lorentzian ether in the absence of
> > electromagnetic fields is conditioned by nothing outside itself, and
> > is everywhere the same. The ether of the general theory of relativity
> > is transmuted conceptually into the ether of Lorentz if we substitute
> > constants for the functions of space which describe the former,
> > disregarding the causes which condition its state."http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html
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> > The cause which conditions its state is its displacement by matter.- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> Gravity is not a property of the Earth. It is a property of the space
> the Earth is in.
>
> Mitch Raemsch

Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
Aether is displaced by matter.
Displacement creates pressure.
Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter.

The following image represents the aether's state of displacement as
determined by its connections with the matter. The image would be more
accurate if the grid connected to and through the Earth. This would
more accurately reflect Einstein's concept of the state of the aether
is determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the
aether in neighboring places:

http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2005/11/16/16nov_gpb_resources/vortex1_crop.jpg

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity
by
Albert Einstein'

"What is fundamentally new in the ether of the general theory of
relativity as opposed to the ether of Lorentz consists in this, that
the state of the former is at every place determined by connections
with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places,
which are amenable to law in the form of differential equations;
whereas the state of the Lorentzian ether in the absence of
electromagnetic fields is conditioned by nothing outside itself, and
is everywhere the same. The ether of the general theory of relativity
is transmuted conceptually into the ether of Lorentz if we substitute
constants for the functions of space which describe the former,
disregarding the causes which condition its state."
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html

The cause which conditions its state is its displacement by matter.
From: mpc755 on
On Apr 15, 11:25 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Gravity is not a property of the Earth. It is a property of the space
> the Earth is in.
>
> Mitch Raemsch

Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
Aether is displaced by matter.
Displacement creates pressure.
Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter.

The following image represents the aether's state of displacement as
determined by its connections with the matter. The image would be more
accurate if the grid connected to and through the Earth. This would
more accurately reflect Einstein's concept of the state of the aether
is determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the
aether in neighboring places:

http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2005/11/16/16nov_gpb_resources/vortex1_crop.jpg

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity
by
Albert Einstein'

"What is fundamentally new in the ether of the general theory of
relativity as opposed to the ether of Lorentz consists in this, that
the state of the former is at every place determined by connections
with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places,
which are amenable to law in the form of differential equations;
whereas the state of the Lorentzian ether in the absence of
electromagnetic fields is conditioned by nothing outside itself, and
is everywhere the same. The ether of the general theory of relativity
is transmuted conceptually into the ether of Lorentz if we substitute
constants for the functions of space which describe the former,
disregarding the causes which condition its state."
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html

The cause which conditions its state is its displacement by matter.
From: spudnik on
you are merely quoting, without adding any thing
to the results or dyscussions;
what is your crucial finding, that makes a necessity of aether --
did you create the first perfect vacuum?

> Do you even realize I am quoting from the article above?

thus:
wait a second; why don't you *tell* us what it might mean?...
anyway, it doesn't localize anything but light --
obviously, according to the experiment. as I recall,
mister Surfer had something to say about "gas-phase" inter-
ferometry of M&M (of course, "gas" or vacuum is a medium, because
there is *no* vacuum).

> > What and how does a Michelson interferometer measure?
http://arxiv.org/abs/1003.2899
> Then the matter which is the optical media causes the aether to be

--Light: A History!
http://wlym.com
From: BURT on
On Apr 16, 4:33 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 15, 11:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > If universal aether is expanding it is enlarging orbits into lesser
> > gravity. Aether is also expanding light. This is the cosmological
> > redshift.
>
> > Mitch Raemsch
>
> The universe is not expanding.
>
> The universe is, or the local universe is in, a jet stream.
>
> Turn the following image 90 degrees, where Quantum Fluctuations is at
> the bottom of the image, and the image is of a pressure cooker:
>
> http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>
> Here are a couple of images which are more correct in representing
> what the universe is then the absurd nonsense of a Big Bang. The
> universe is more like a Big Ongoing.
>
> http://www.feandft.com/BlackHole.jpg
>
> In the following image, the gray area is the Rindler Horizon:
>
> http://huntersofthecloud.com/images/HuntersofTheCloudmagfield.gif
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#The_Rindler_horizon

Where is the jet stream orginating and flowing to if the universe is
not expanding?

Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on
On Apr 16, 6:04 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 16, 4:33 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 15, 11:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > If universal aether is expanding it is enlarging orbits into lesser
> > > gravity. Aether is also expanding light. This is the cosmological
> > > redshift.
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > The universe is not expanding.
>
> > The universe is, or the local universe is in, a jet stream.
>
> > Turn the following image 90 degrees, where Quantum Fluctuations is at
> > the bottom of the image, and the image is of a pressure cooker:
>
> >http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>
> > Here are a couple of images which are more correct in representing
> > what the universe is then the absurd nonsense of a Big Bang. The
> > universe is more like a Big Ongoing.
>
> >http://www.feandft.com/BlackHole.jpg
>
> > In the following image, the gray area is the Rindler Horizon:
>
> >http://huntersofthecloud.com/images/HuntersofTheCloudmagfield.gif
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#The_Rindler_horizon
>
> Where is the jet stream orginating and flowing to if the universe is
> not expanding?
>
> Mitch Raemsch

In the following image the jet stream originates at the Quantum
Fluctuations:

http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html

After the Dark Energy Accelerated Expansion the matter goes over the
'water fall' and winds up back at the Rindler Horizon, which is the
midpoint between the two jet streams as represented here:

http://www.feandft.com/BlackHole.jpg

That's not to say there is, or isn't, another jet stream. There may be
another one, there could be an infinite number of them. It could also
be that what we see is all there is.

The point being the notion of a 'Big Bang' where all that we see
originated at a single instance is absurd nonsense. What we see is an
ongoing process.