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From: Rich Grise on 12 Apr 2006 17:46 On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:27:26 +0000, Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Jim Yanik wrote: >> >> I'd say that at least 51% of the content(labor and parts) must come from >> the country of "manufacture". >> >> How is it set for the auto industry? > > Do you remember seeing stickers on modules and chassis in consumer > electronics stating "xx% of this assembly built with foreign parts" back > in the late '60s and early '70s" No, but I _have_ seen stickers that say, "Assembled in the USA" or equiv. Technically, everyone from the north pole to Tierra Del Fuego could call themselves "Americans," it's just that there's Norteamericanos, Centrale- amaricanos, and Suramericanos. Remember a big flap around the time the Japanese were doing seriously cheap knockoffs of practically everything? They did their final assembly in a little town outside Tokyo, called "Usa". ( When I was stationed at Yokota, the town outside was called "Fussa", so it's not entirely unbelievable), and, of course, they stamped all of their products, "Made in Usa". ;-) Cheers! Rich
From: Spokesman on 12 Apr 2006 18:58 "Smitty Two" <prestwhich(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:prestwhich-63BE2B.20295011042006(a)news.west.cox.net... > In article <MPG.1ea5b4dbda2d0fa29899a4(a)News.Individual.NET>, > Keith Williams <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: > > > > > > > No contradiction at all. In the US it is illegal to put a "Made in > > &country." sticker on a device that's only &country. content is the > > insertion of a battery. I can't imagine this being kosher in the > > EU. It has nothing to do with re-branding. > > > > > Actually, it seems to me that your logic is flawed, your position is > nebulous, and your analogies irrelevant. > > But just clarify this one issue for me, and then I'll let it drop. > Suppose I buy a chassis made in Japan, some electronic components made > in China, a blank PWB fabricated in Maylasia, a battery made in Mexico, > and a can of spray paint made on the moon. And I put it all together > into a product. Now, can I say it was made in America? > > And if so, where and when do I cross the line to illegality? You say > that if all I do is add the battery, I can't claim I made it here. What > if all I do is add the battery and spray paint it? What if all I do is > add the battery, install the assembled board into the chassis, and paint > it? What if all I do is add two components to the PWB, install the > board, paint it, and add the battery? > > And how is this different than re-branding? One company can take another > company's product and stick their name on it, but one country can't do > that with another country's product? > > Your standards are indefensible, because they're undefinable. Honda takes a bit of tin, bashes it into shape, installs a Japanese engine with all made in Japan electronic components. A Japanese radio, Japanese brakes. and calls it " Made in North America"
From: Michael A. Terrell on 12 Apr 2006 20:03 Bud-- wrote: > > Smitty Two wrote: > > > In article <pan.2006.04.12.02.29.51.824087(a)att.bizzzz>, > > Keith <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: > > > > > > > >>Let's go back! The OP's bitching because he bought a FLUKE, with Company > >>B's label on top. He *DID NOT* buy a Fluke. The IBM deal is quite like > >>the GE deal. They're selling their name as part of the unit sold. The > >>name is worth money. ...and they're still servicing the products *THEY* > >>sell. I suppose you don't think GoodYear should sell tires under the > >>GoodYear name in Sears. > > > > > > Nope, the OP simply asked whether there were alternatives to Fluke, of > > comparable quality. Someone opined that Omega was good. I offered that > > Omega doesn't make things. > > > > Seems to me like an entirely reasonable observation. I was surprised > when I figured out some 'Omega' equipment was from other manufacturers > and cheaper under the manufacturers name. My impression is that Omega is > a convenient source for a wide range of stuff but you pay more for it. > > bud-- Not only that, but some of the manufacturers only sell in large quantities so its actually cheaper to go to a distributor for small orders.
From: Jim Yanik on 12 Apr 2006 20:03 "Spokesman" <his(a)spam.net> wrote in news:JvKdnZiVX9uqG6DZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d(a)wightman.ca: > > > Honda takes a bit of tin, bashes it into shape, installs a Japanese > engine with all > made in Japan electronic components. A Japanese radio, Japanese > brakes. and calls it " Made in North America" > > > > I hate to break it to you,but Honda makes auto engines for US Hondas in their Marysvale,Ohio plant,they have been for a long time. US Hondas have greater US content than many "Detroit" autos/SUVs,some of which are made wholly or partly in Mexico or Canada. Some of the Japanese US auto plants are shipping US made autos to Japan. IIRC,only the West Coast gets Japanese-made Honda autos. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net
From: DaveC on 12 Apr 2006 22:10
Thus spake Ken G.: > I got a brand new Fluke 87 about 15 years ago and had nothing but > trouble with it . I dont use it all that much and its always stayed on a > workbench . It looks like brand new still . > It had wierd problems not turning off and making clicking noises when > switched off . Now the AC reads 25 volts low when testing an outlet . > My used Fluke 73 has neverhad any problems . > > The Harbor Freight auto ranging DMM that looks alot like the Fluke 83 > ,same size even has a yellow rubber case thingy is sure a nice meter for > 20 - 30$ Looked at the Wavetek (owned by Fluke) MeterMan DMMs. I like them. I think I might buy a $150 one. I'll keep my Fluke 73 & 77 for everyday measurement (they never quit), but when I need "true RMS" I'll use the MeterMan. -- DaveC me(a)privacy.net This is an invalid return address Please reply in the news group |