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From: Scott Newell on 11 Apr 2006 19:17 Jim Yanik wrote: > > "Joel Kolstad" <JKolstad71HatesSpam(a)yahoo.com> wrote in > news:123li6kbnj0hq8e(a)corp.supernews.com: > > > "Jim Yanik" <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> wrote in message > > news:Xns97A0963DB25AAjyanikkuanet(a)129.250.170.84... > >> Those TEK DMMs come from Taiwan,not from TEK. > >> They were rebadged,just like the cheap function generators and > >> counters. > > > > Hmm... my Tek TX1 says "Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, OR USA" on the back > > of it. The box for it says the same thing; I don't see "Taiwan" > > anywhere. Are you sure they came from Taiwan? > > What's the serial number begin with? A "T"?? > Beaverton TEK-made stuff comes with a "B" prefix s/n. My Tek TX3 DMM has a B016XXX serial. -- newell N5TNL
From: Jim Yanik on 11 Apr 2006 19:05 "Joel Kolstad" <JKolstad71HatesSpam(a)yahoo.com> wrote in news:123nr4r5l442eb5(a)corp.supernews.com: > Hi Jim, > > "Jim Yanik" <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> wrote in message > news:Xns97A1CCF86BC61jyanikkuanet(a)129.250.170.85... >> What's the serial number begin with? A "T"?? >> Beaverton TEK-made stuff comes with a "B" prefix s/n. > > It's a B! So perhaps Tek started out with manufacturing in Oregon and > then moved it to Taiwan? I'm not certain when the thing was built -- > I obtained it second-hand. I do know that the TX1 and TX3 were rather > short-lived at Tek; my impression is that they were only sold for a > couple of years before being discontinued. > >> BTW,TEK TDS scopes use a purchased power supply. > > Yeah, no surprise there. When you can get a 12V, 8A switching "brick" > for something like $15 in quantity, I can't imagine trying to design > such an item yourself. In fact, I was told that this was one of the > main reasons the plug-in/mainframe approach to test equipment (e.g., > the TM500 modules) died -- a big advantage was that you didn't keep > purchasing the power supply again and again, which was a big ticket > item back in the '60s and '70s. Once switchers became cheap, this > advantage disappered and Tek sold off the TM500 line to some other > manufacturer. > > ---Joel > > > Sold to TEGAM. TM500's advantage was configurability;you could configure a test station with TM500 modules,connect them thru the backplane,and with the TM5000 series,also have GPIB programming and control. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net
From: Jim Yanik on 11 Apr 2006 19:09 "Joel Kolstad" <JKolstad71HatesSpam(a)yahoo.com> wrote in news:123nrkh83u257fe(a)corp.supernews.com: > "Jim Yanik" <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> wrote in message > news:Xns97A1EE39B95EBjyanikkuanet(a)129.250.170.83... >> Now you can't even get a component-level schematic for your TEK TDS >> scope;they don't want you trying to fix them yourself,even "obsolete" >> ones they no longer service. > > Parts of Tek (not all of it -- there are still plenty of good people > there) seem to now have the slightly paranoid "big company" attitude You want a good read,hunt down a copy of "Winning with Tek;The First 40 years at Tektronix" by Marshall M. Lee. The story of Tek from the beginning. Unfortunately,it was published BY Tek,10/86,and has no ISBN number. Tek gave evey employee a copy. You might find a copy on Ebay. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net
From: Spehro Pefhany on 11 Apr 2006 20:28 On 11 Apr 2006 23:09:21 GMT, the renowned Jim Yanik <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> wrote: >"Joel Kolstad" <JKolstad71HatesSpam(a)yahoo.com> wrote in >news:123nrkh83u257fe(a)corp.supernews.com: > >> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> wrote in message >> news:Xns97A1EE39B95EBjyanikkuanet(a)129.250.170.83... >>> Now you can't even get a component-level schematic for your TEK TDS >>> scope;they don't want you trying to fix them yourself,even "obsolete" >>> ones they no longer service. >> >> Parts of Tek (not all of it -- there are still plenty of good people >> there) seem to now have the slightly paranoid "big company" attitude > >You want a good read,hunt down a copy of "Winning with Tek;The First 40 >years at Tektronix" by Marshall M. Lee. >The story of Tek from the beginning. Make that "Winning with People: The First 40 Years of Tektronix"
From: Keith on 11 Apr 2006 22:29
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:59:43 -0700, Joel Kolstad wrote: > Hi Keith, > > "Keith Williams" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message > news:MPG.1ea5c7c4a688fad69899a7(a)News.Individual.NET... >> If you bought company B's product, you go to company B for support. >> If that company is a fly-by-nighter, you shouldn't have bought it. > > You're illustrating exactly the problem with Tektronix (and other companies > such as IBM) here: They have a reputation for a certain level of quality & > support, so you can't blame the customer when the company starts re-labeling > someone else's product, sells them, and then can no longer provide their > traditional level of service. Let's go back! The OP's bitching because he bought a FLUKE, with Company B's label on top. He *DID NOT* buy a Fluke. The IBM deal is quite like the GE deal. They're selling their name as part of the unit sold. The name is worth money. ...and they're still servicing the products *THEY* sell. I suppose you don't think GoodYear should sell tires under the GoodYear name in Sears. In the end, it's up to the consumer to know what he's buying. >> If company A's was cheaper, you're a fool for buying the same thing >> with company B's sticker on it. There is no fraud going on here at >> all. It's all aboveboard. > > Sure, it's above board and not fradulent -- it's just disappointing. Why? He bought a Company B product that is the same as a company A, but paid for Company B. Why is that disappointing? > I don't think anyone here *is* claiming something truly evil is going on, > just that it's sad to see traditionally excellent companies go down this > path in a manner somewhat akin to "selling out." You're wrong. He was claiming *FRAUD* (until I challenged this absurdity), which clearly it's not. -- Keith |