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From: Virgil on 31 Aug 2006 15:00 In article <ub6ef21d9o1m22bbhok6d0knbu12v0dt5d(a)4ax.com>, Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote: > So how exactly do definitions differ from propositions? Definitions are requests to let one thing represent another, whereas propositions are declarations that something is true.
From: Virgil on 31 Aug 2006 15:04 In article <fd6ef2lhai4j05a73goceh4tveovu0lcvb(a)4ax.com>, Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote: > On 31 Aug 2006 18:47:17 +0300, Phil Carmody > <thefatphil_demunged(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > >schoenfeld.one(a)gmail.com writes: > >> Definitions can be false too (i.e. "Let x be an even odd"). > > > >Nonsense. It appears you are unaware of the use of the word > >'vacuous' in mathematics. Probably due to the matching state > >of your brain cavity. > > So definitions in modern math are not true? Nor false. A definition is merely a request to allow one thing to represent another. Even if that other thing does not exist, one can at worst only decline the request.
From: Virgil on 31 Aug 2006 15:22 In article <1g6ef29j95erganm4b51kteh5ab6d7pcdf(a)4ax.com>, Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:02:24 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > >In article <bn4cf213is70kjhmu35h9e7945hc3bb36i(a)4ax.com>, > > Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:43:02 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >> > >> >In article <r7kbf2tlc70iqjm2rp4ktprl1o3uui79jf(a)4ax.com>, > >> > Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> >> >Hello Crackpot. > >> >> > >> >> Crackpot=disagreer. Quite mathematical. > >> > > >> >Crackpots are those who disagree not only without supporting evidence > >> >but despite contrary evidence. > >> > > >> >Like Zick. > >> > >> Like exactly what contrary evidence do you mean, sport? Your opinions > >> and assumptions of what's true and false? Or in your case I guess I > >> should say your opinion of what's not true and not false? > > > >Zick claims that mathematicians claim their axioms to be true. > >What evidence does he have of this claim? > >Like most of his claims here, none! > > Actually Zick claims that modern mathematikers claim their axioms are > not true. The set of "modern mathematikers" is purely an artifact of Zick's misimaginings, and has nothing to do with any real mathematicians, modern or otherwise.
From: Han.deBruijn on 31 Aug 2006 15:22 John Schutkeker wrote: > You're underemployed, Believe it or not, I have a so-called full time job. > and you need to get started on your PhD. Think I've become a bit too old (: 1947) to undertake such a thing. > That CFD > project you named should be a prfectly acceptable dissertation. Have several of these. Which one do you mean? Han de Bruijn
From: Virgil on 31 Aug 2006 15:26
In article <9j6ef21r43bkfbp361j8pen3q2kv6m4seq(a)4ax.com>, Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote: > On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:14:02 EDT, "T.H. Ray" <thray123(a)aol.com> wrote: > > >What makes you think that mathematicians assign any > >value at all to what one personally believes? > > And what makes you think anyone assigns any value to what anyone > believes about modern mathematics? One would assign at least as much value to the opinions of widely recognized mathematicians on modern mathematicians that the opinions of those like Zick who have shown they know virtually nothing about it. |