From: MoeBlee on
Lester Zick wrote:
> I didn't ask what common approaches are, Moe, and I don't care what
> common approaches are. I asked what the difference is between
> definitions and propositions. It's a simple question and what I asked
> for was the answer. If you can't give the answer then extemporaneous
> speculations on approaches of others won't produce the answer either.

I think the approach I mentioned is an excellent one, and better than
any other I know of. You can take that, along with my description of
the approach to be my answer.

MoeBlee

From: Lester Zick on
On 31 Aug 2006 14:22:07 -0700, "MoeBlee" <jazzmobe(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>Lester Zick wrote:

>> I didn't ask what common approaches are, Moe, and I don't care what
>> common approaches are. I asked what the difference is between
>> definitions and propositions. It's a simple question and what I asked
>> for was the answer. If you can't give the answer then extemporaneous
>> speculations on approaches of others won't produce the answer either.
>
>I think the approach I mentioned is an excellent one, and better than
>any other I know of. You can take that, along with my description of
>the approach to be my answer.

Unfortunately not to the question I posed. Do even have an inkling why
this isn't an answer, Moe? Is it because I'm a bad person? Or because
you're extemporizing on unresponsive collateral considerations and yet
calling them answers?

~v~~
From: Lester Zick on
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:26:09 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote:

>In article <9j6ef21r43bkfbp361j8pen3q2kv6m4seq(a)4ax.com>,
> Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:14:02 EDT, "T.H. Ray" <thray123(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>
>
>> >What makes you think that mathematicians assign any
>> >value at all to what one personally believes?
>>
>> And what makes you think anyone assigns any value to what anyone
>> believes about modern mathematics?
>
>One would assign at least as much value to the opinions of widely
>recognized mathematicians on modern mathematicians that the opinions of
>those like Zick who have shown they know virtually nothing about it.

Oookay then I guess we got that straightened out. Now weren't you
about to show us a rac construction for pi on a straight line, Virgil?

~v~~
From: Virgil on
In article <kcfef25ggvc4sli148c359pufc0r98nbqn(a)4ax.com>,
Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote:

> I do understand the collective angst projections of neo platonic
> mystics however.

Then bother some psychology news group.
From: Lester Zick on
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:22:05 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote:

>In article <1g6ef29j95erganm4b51kteh5ab6d7pcdf(a)4ax.com>,
> Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:02:24 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <bn4cf213is70kjhmu35h9e7945hc3bb36i(a)4ax.com>,
>> > Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:43:02 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <r7kbf2tlc70iqjm2rp4ktprl1o3uui79jf(a)4ax.com>,
>> >> > Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> >Hello Crackpot.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Crackpot=disagreer. Quite mathematical.
>> >> >
>> >> >Crackpots are those who disagree not only without supporting evidence
>> >> >but despite contrary evidence.
>> >> >
>> >> >Like Zick.
>> >>
>> >> Like exactly what contrary evidence do you mean, sport? Your opinions
>> >> and assumptions of what's true and false? Or in your case I guess I
>> >> should say your opinion of what's not true and not false?
>> >
>> >Zick claims that mathematicians claim their axioms to be true.
>> >What evidence does he have of this claim?
>> >Like most of his claims here, none!
>>
>> Actually Zick claims that modern mathematikers claim their axioms are
>> not true.
>
>The set of "modern mathematikers" is purely an artifact of Zick's
>misimaginings,

Unfortunately the set of modern mathematikers who believe their axioms
and definitions are not true is not one of those mis imaginings.

> and has nothing to do with any real mathematicians,
>modern or otherwise.

Just as you have nothing to do with any real mathematics.

~v~~