From: Lester Zick on
On 31 Aug 2006 16:34:11 -0700, "MoeBlee" <jazzmobe(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>fernando revilla wrote:
>> In the posts of Jack Markan and Virgil, you have the
>> answer.
>
>You have one or two answers there. There may be others.

None of which seem to highlight the reasons one kind of statement is
demonstrable and the other not except that neomathematikers prefer it
that way.

~v~~
From: Lester Zick on
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:51:38 EDT, fernando revilla
<frej0002(a)ficus.pntic.mec.es> wrote:

>> fernando revilla wrote:
>> > In the posts of Jack Markan and Virgil, you have
>> the
>> > answer.
>>
>> You have one or two answers there. There may be
>> others.
>>
>> MoeBlee
>
>Of course, this is not a thesis.

Nor is it an explanation why one kind of statement is demonstrable and
the other not.

~v~~
From: Virgil on
In article <7usgf2t7fq39s571f0jk0s6khh4migkm86(a)4ax.com>,
Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:35:58 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <kcfef25ggvc4sli148c359pufc0r98nbqn(a)4ax.com>,
> > Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I do understand the collective angst projections of neo platonic
> >> mystics however.
> >
> >Then bother some psychology news group.
>
> I thought this was a psychiatric news group.
>
Sorry! You can't get the kind of help you so obviously need here.
From: MoeBlee on
Aatu Koskensilta wrote:
> MoeBlee's answer might be considered somewhat more obfuscated than
> necessary.

My purpose was not to give just an informal explanation, but also to
explain that, and how, this is formalized. The details I included are
important for that purpose.

MoeBlee

From: Virgil on
In article <u2tgf2lbesv7hfpg19t70m2u3i5k9pm2p2(a)4ax.com>,
Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:38:00 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <agfef2p6s30nou8r1esb0ro754o7kmep2i(a)4ax.com>,
> > Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:52:07 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> >
> >> >Zick again attempts to speak authoritatively about modern mathematics
> >> >from the depths of his almost total ignorance of it.
> >> >
> >> >Proclaiming 'sour grapes' about what he cannot have.
> >>
> >> Clever devil that you are I could scarcely do otherwise.
> >
> >It takes time and dedication to do otherwise, but some manage it.
>
> It also takes time and dedication for you to lie through your teeth.

Zick spends more time and energy on that than I.