From: Paul Sture on
In article <doraymeRidThis-572EE4.08000926122009(a)news.albasani.net>,
dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> In article <hh2ieu$loi$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:
>
> > isw wrote:
> > > Why is it that when I do a Spotlight search on "Contents", no matter
> > > what the search phrase is (even random characters), there's always a
> > > bunch of iCal files in the result? ...
> >
> > Did you really try a few random strings? Or just guessing because
> > DSC00144 seemed random?
> >
> > > .... Plus, if you click on
> > > them, no path info is displayed, so you can't even find out where they
> > > are.
> >
> > When I type something into Spotlight (in Tiger), I get the hits in a
> > dropdown. Hover over one, and I get a yellow popup that tells me the
> > full name and path. At the top of the list is a "Show All." If I click
> > that, I get a regular window with a list that can be sorted, grouped,
> > and filtered in various ways. Each item in the list has in info icon
> > on the right which expands the item to a miniature 'Get info' type of
> > listing. Each item also has a right-click context menu that includes
> > Open, Get Info (full), Show in Finder, Slideshow (usually disabled),
> > Mail, and Create Workflow.
> >
>
> Infuriating process, I find it best to use Spotlight via Command-F in a
> directory window. Sometimes you try your luck in the spotlight bar and
> play pin the tail on the moving donkey (the hover gives useful info if
> you can make the trigger stay still as more and more things are added...)
>

Infuriating is the right word and I abandoned Spotlight back when I was
using Tiger. Many a time it would display the file I wanted straight
away but before I'd had chance to click on it, it had disappeared from
the list, not be been seen again.

I recommend Matt Neuberg's NotLight. It allows you to specify the type
of search (name, content, extension) before the search starts.

<http://www.tidbits.com/matt/>
(scroll down to get to the NotLight entry)

--
Paul Sture
From: dorayme on
In article <paul.nospam-AB3B83.01375102012010(a)pbook.sture.ch>,
Paul Sture <paul.nospam(a)sture.ch> wrote:

> In article <doraymeRidThis-572EE4.08000926122009(a)news.albasani.net>,
> dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> > In article <hh2ieu$loi$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> > Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:
> >
> > > isw wrote:
> > > > Why is it that when I do a Spotlight search on "Contents", no matter
> > > > what the search phrase is (even random characters), there's always a
> > > > bunch of iCal files in the result? ...
> > >
> > > Did you really try a few random strings? Or just guessing because
> > > DSC00144 seemed random?
> > >
> > > > .... Plus, if you click on
> > > > them, no path info is displayed, so you can't even find out where they
> > > > are.
> > >
> > > When I type something into Spotlight (in Tiger), I get the hits in a
> > > dropdown. Hover over one, and I get a yellow popup that tells me the
> > > full name and path. At the top of the list is a "Show All." If I click
> > > that, I get a regular window with a list that can be sorted, grouped,
> > > and filtered in various ways. Each item in the list has in info icon
> > > on the right which expands the item to a miniature 'Get info' type of
> > > listing. Each item also has a right-click context menu that includes
> > > Open, Get Info (full), Show in Finder, Slideshow (usually disabled),
> > > Mail, and Create Workflow.
> > >
> >
> > Infuriating process, I find it best to use Spotlight via Command-F in a
> > directory window. Sometimes you try your luck in the spotlight bar and
> > play pin the tail on the moving donkey (the hover gives useful info if
> > you can make the trigger stay still as more and more things are added...)
> >
>
> Infuriating is the right word and I abandoned Spotlight back when I was
> using Tiger. Many a time it would display the file I wanted straight
> away but before I'd had chance to click on it, it had disappeared from
> the list, not be been seen again.
>
> I recommend Matt Neuberg's NotLight. It allows you to specify the type
> of search (name, content, extension) before the search starts.
>
> <http://www.tidbits.com/matt/>
> (scroll down to get to the NotLight entry)

I am crazy to still use spotlight, but I do! Mainly I use the command-F
route in a directory window but the simple brilliant idea of the
spotlight field, top right corner tempts me now and then and I fall for
it like a big sucker! If it were good, it would be such gem in the OS X
crown! But it is an absolute disgrace! I even had a case the other day
when I was staring at the file I pretended to find, and "no result" -
Yes, I copy/pasted from the file name to the Spotlight field. Maybe, to
be fair, my slower QS 933 takes its time. It was recently transferred
file from camera to HD...

--
dorayme
From: Wes Groleau on
Paul Sture wrote:
> dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> Infuriating process, I find it best to use Spotlight via Command-F in a
>> directory window. Sometimes you try your luck in the spotlight bar and
>> play pin the tail on the moving donkey (the hover gives useful info if
>> you can make the trigger stay still as more and more things are added...)
>
> Infuriating is the right word and I abandoned Spotlight back when I was
> using Tiger. Many a time it would display the file I wanted straight
> away but before I'd had chance to click on it, it had disappeared from
> the list, not be been seen again.

It's probably "in there" but Spotlight is guessing wrongly which
hits are the most likely.

I did one yesterday that had thousands of hits. What I was
looking for was one of a dozen that had the same filename,
different contents. Every time I opened one to look inside,
Spotlight went back to the top of the #$%^&%^& list, and
I had to scroll back down, figure out which ones I hadn't
looked in yet, ...

--
Wes Groleau

An example of how important grammar points are deferred
http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/barrett?itemid=1560
From: isw on
In article <hhnq84$qb8$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:

> Paul Sture wrote:
> > dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >> Infuriating process, I find it best to use Spotlight via Command-F in a
> >> directory window. Sometimes you try your luck in the spotlight bar and
> >> play pin the tail on the moving donkey (the hover gives useful info if
> >> you can make the trigger stay still as more and more things are added...)
> >
> > Infuriating is the right word and I abandoned Spotlight back when I was
> > using Tiger. Many a time it would display the file I wanted straight
> > away but before I'd had chance to click on it, it had disappeared from
> > the list, not be been seen again.
>
> It's probably "in there" but Spotlight is guessing wrongly which
> hits are the most likely.
>
> I did one yesterday that had thousands of hits. What I was
> looking for was one of a dozen that had the same filename,
> different contents. Every time I opened one to look inside,
> Spotlight went back to the top of the #$%^&%^& list, and
> I had to scroll back down, figure out which ones I hadn't
> looked in yet, ...

If you just double-click the icon of a file in the "found" list, that
file will open in whatever app "owns" it, while your place in the list
of found items is not disturbed.

Isaac
From: Wes Groleau on
isw wrote:
> Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:
>> different contents. Every time I opened one to look inside,
>> Spotlight went back to the top of the #$%^&%^& list, and
>> I had to scroll back down, figure out which ones I hadn't
>> looked in yet, ...
>
> If you just double-click the icon of a file in the "found" list, that
> file will open in whatever app "owns" it, while your place in the list
> of found items is not disturbed.

I repeat: every time I opened one to look inside,
Spotlight scrolled the list back to the top.

--
Wes Groleau

New numbers for next year
http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/barrett?itemid=1495