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From: J G Miller on 5 Aug 2010 19:38 On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:33:01 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb wrote: > At least I am not afraid of what others might think. That is easy to say when one is an anonymous nymshifter using an open news server.
From: Chris Ahlstrom on 6 Aug 2010 07:00 J G Miller posted this message in ROT13 encoding: > On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:33:01 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb wrote: > >> At least I am not afraid of what others might think. > > That is easy to say when one is an anonymous nymshifter using an open news > server. And it make his bluster a pusillanimous lie. -- God doesn't play dice. -- Albert Einstein
From: Aragorn on 6 Aug 2010 12:14 On Friday 06 August 2010 17:15 in comp.os.linux.misc, somebody identifying as Moshe Goldfarb wrote... > On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 16:18:10 +0200, Hadron<hadronquark(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Nice. Nothing quite beats a COLA "advocate" for peace and goodwill >> and love to all those around him. > > Linux advocates bring their filth and vermin with them wherever they > go. That's one of the reasons people just don't like them. I'm afraid that that's an opportunistic and grossly sloganesque lie, Moshe (and yes, I know who you "used to be" under other pseudonyms, but I have no quarrel with you). As you well-enough remember, I myself have also been subscribed to comp.os.linux.advocacy a number of years ago, and I have *never* attacked anyone there on their person. Yet from day one I was attacked ad hominem with everything all you "Windows advocates" - I am trying to be polite - could throw at me. I even had a bot on my tail putting words in my mouth that I had never spoken. And even *you* have followed me around in other newsgroups in order to discredit me, even though my contributions in comp.os.linux.advocacy have always been about what the name of that group suggests that it's for, i.e. advocacy, and nothing else. The truth of the matter is that it is "you Windows advocates" - again, I'm trying to be polite - who are full of hatred. That *is* why you are residing in comp.os.linux.advocacy, and that is also why you feel the need to draw other newsgroups into the flamewars that originate in said group. Even right now, you were replying to someone "from your own camp", but who is known to be a liar and a defamer, who resorts to ad hominem attacks - and he seems to regularly put the crosshairs on me whenever I post something in one of your "Windows advocacy" crossposted flamewar threads - because his arsenal of technical arguments is simply depleted before he can even launch the first valid shot. I will agree with you that comp.os.linux.advocacy is filled with hatred now - and it already was for a large part back when I was still subscribed to it myself - and that this hatred lives on both sides of the fence, but let's face it: it only came to *be* this way *because* of you people and the foaming-at-the-mouth flamewars and flurries of ad hominems that you guys launch. So be honest with yourself. If you don't like this hatred and these flamewars, then it's plain and simple: stop creating them. If you want to advocate Microsoft Windows in a group that was not founded for that purpose, then that is already technically considered trolling, but then even still, you could change your approach and attempt to be serious. And I also acknowledge that by now, it'll probably be too late to change, because your opponents have by now also surpassed the boiling point and are now just as ferocious as you and your fellow "Windows advocates" have been for years already. Quite frankly, I don't see this situation resolve to any peace anymore. There is just too much bile being spit out on both sides of the battlefield, and I have seen even decent people lose their dignity in this war (and again, on both sides of the field). I am not subscribed to comp.os.linux.advocacy anymore, because the group was already a cesspool back when I still was, more than half a decade ago. And so this is no longer my war - if it ever was, because I am not into bullying and I was only there for the sake of GNU/Linux advocacy. But I just don't think it is fair to claim that the hatred is all on one side and that the other side is to blame, and this in a thread which *you* *people* have needlessly crossposted to two other newsgroups. The bottom line, Gary, or whatever your real name is - and I don't care what your name is, because you're a human being and that's good enough for me - is that if you want to complain about injustice, then you must first face the injustice within yourself. Look in the mirror and ask yourself "What have I done wrong?" before you can claim judgment on another person. I have spoken. And I have spoken with serenity and honesty. What you do with my advice to you is your concern. And I'm sure that Hadron will once again have a shot at me, even if only because my reply was lengthy. And that's exactly why Hadron is in my killfile. And you're not - although at times in the past, you were - because I know that you _can_ be reasoned with. And that's what I am trying to do here and now. Like I said, I have no quarrel with you. I just want you to think about something in an honest way, that's all. (And this post is also not an invitation to anyone from the GNU/Linux camp in comp.os.linux.advocacy to spit any more ad hominem venom in any follow-ups. Doing so would only annihilate my attempts at establishing a cease-fire, how naive my attempts may ever be.) "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." -- Mahatma Ghandi "There is no path to peace. Peace is the path." -- Mahatma Ghandi "You cannot solve a problem with the same level of thinking as what created it in the first place." -- Albert Einstein Quod erat demonstrandum. -- *Aragorn* (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)
From: Chris Ahlstrom on 6 Aug 2010 13:51 Aragorn posted this message in ROT13 encoding: > On Friday 06 August 2010 17:15 in comp.os.linux.misc, somebody > identifying as Moshe Goldfarb wrote... > >> On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 16:18:10 +0200, Hadron<hadronquark(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Nice. Nothing quite beats a COLA "advocate" for peace and goodwill >>> and love to all those around him. >> >> Linux advocates bring their filth and vermin with them wherever they >> go. That's one of the reasons people just don't like them. > > Like I said, I have no quarrel with you. I just want you to think about > something in an honest way, that's all. Unfortunately, these kinds of people enjoy browbeating and ridiculing others as a kind of sick sport. > (And this post is also not an invitation to anyone from the GNU/Linux > camp in comp.os.linux.advocacy to spit any more ad hominem venom in any > follow-ups. Doing so would only annihilate my attempts at establishing > a cease-fire, how naive my attempts may ever be.) Aye, your attempts are naive... but welcome. > "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." > -- Mahatma Ghandi > > "There is no path to peace. Peace is the path." > -- Mahatma Ghandi > > "You cannot solve a problem with the same level of thinking > as what created it in the first place." > -- Albert Einstein Ghandi listening to "Hadron" call him a "freetard": http://www.eastchesterschools.org/m/file.php/11709/Course_Graphics/Mahatma-Gandhi_3.jpg Einstein dealing with trolls: http://www.maniacworld.com/albert-einstein-1.jpg -- The reported resort to astrology in the White House has occasioned much merriment. It is not funny. Astrological gibberish, which means astrology generally, has no place in a newspaper, let alone government. Unlike comics, which are part of a newspaper's harmless pleasure and make no truth claims, astrology is a fraud. The idea that it gets a hearing in government is dismaying. -- George Will, Washing Post Writers Group
From: chrisv on 8 Aug 2010 11:21
J G Miller wrote: > mentally-ill troll wrote: >> >> At least I am not afraid of what others might think. > >That is easy to say when one is an anonymous nymshifter using an open news server. Not one person here really knows with that pathological liar really thinks. |