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From: liquidator on 10 Feb 2007 12:40 "Geezer Sonics" <geeze(a)deafguy.com> wrote in message news:geeze-F953C9.12162810022007(a)comcast.dca.giganews.com... > In article <45cddf5c$0$16398$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com>, > "liquidator" <liquidator(a)collide.org> wrote: > > > "Geezer Sonics" <geeze(a)deafguy.com> wrote in message > > news:geeze-E5C118.08411310022007(a)comcast.dca.giganews.com... > > > - Many of the Behringer supporters who post on AAPLS are very vocal, > > > strongly opinionated, an pretty damned intolerant of differing opinions. > > > > > > Opinions are one thing- you post information that is completely wrong. > > Then cite what I have said that is completely wrong. > > > > > I'm not a Behringer evangelist. I just have a short fuse for outright > > lies. > > > > Behringer is what it is, use it or not. But he doesn't need to lie > > about > > > > it. > > > > > > Please cite my "outright lies" > > > > Virtually everything you've ever posted about Behringer. You do not get your > > facts straight at all. > > If "virtually everything" I have ever posted about Behringer is wrong, > you shouldn't have a problem citing it. > > > I'd like to respect you- but I can't till you quit making posts like your > > original post to this thread. > > I am sorry that your "respect" requires that I drink Behringer flavored > Kool-Aid. That ain't gonna happen. Didn't say that. Just said quit lying. Apparently that ain't gonna happen. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: tbmoas58 on 10 Feb 2007 12:58 "Geezer Sonics" <geeze(a)deafguy.com> wrote in message news:geeze-23C758.12281610022007(a)comcast.dca.giganews.com... > In article <MAkzh.405$Jl.0(a)newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>, > <tbmoas58(a)peoplepc.com> wrote: > >> >> trying to make a bad products abilty to destroy speakers the same as a >> good >> product that makes a small clic when powered down >> >> that is a outright lie your trying to pass off >> george > > Not what I said George, and certainly not a lie. What I said was, and > this is correct so far, that any inherent issues with a Behringer > product would be glossed over. You call it a small click, and another > poster claimed it was a large enough thump, that his routine included > disconnecting speaker cables before hitting the power switch. > > I am not claiming that these transient incidents are equivalent, > because I have no direct first hand experience with these specific > products. My guess, is that the likelihood of blowing drivers is > directly propertional to the amplifiers sensitivity and gain settings. > > That DriveRack PA causes a transient on turn-on may be a case for > avoiding the product for some users. I have yet to see anyone here > actually state that they have lost drivers because of this, nor have I > seen any documentation of the level of the transient. There sure is a > lot of chicken little, "the sky is falling" noise about it. > > FWIW, in the old days, before DSP and common use of UPS back-up power, > most of knew not to turn on amplifiers until all front end gear was > powered up. Y you sure dish up double talk that would make G W proud the small noise a behringer amp make is equal to what my powerlight 4.0s do it is not"glossed over" it is a NON ISSUE The DBX probem is documented if you care to look for it and it is a dangerous pos I drank enough of the DBX kool-aid to know I want to warn other not to do the same g
From: Geezer Sonics on 10 Feb 2007 14:14 In article <45cdf7ee$0$16392$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com>, "liquidator" <liquidator(a)collide.org> wrote: > "Geezer Sonics" <geeze(a)deafguy.com> wrote in message > news:geeze-F953C9.12162810022007(a)comcast.dca.giganews.com... > > In article <45cddf5c$0$16398$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com>, > > "liquidator" <liquidator(a)collide.org> wrote: > > > > > "Geezer Sonics" <geeze(a)deafguy.com> wrote in message > > > news:geeze-E5C118.08411310022007(a)comcast.dca.giganews.com... > > > > - Many of the Behringer supporters who post on AAPLS are very vocal, > > > > strongly opinionated, an pretty damned intolerant of differing > opinions. > > > > > > > > > Opinions are one thing- you post information that is completely wrong. > > > > Then cite what I have said that is completely wrong. > > > > > > > I'm not a Behringer evangelist. I just have a short fuse for > outright > > > lies. > > > > > Behringer is what it is, use it or not. But he doesn't need to lie > > > about > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > Please cite my "outright lies" > > > > > > Virtually everything you've ever posted about Behringer. You do not get > your > > > facts straight at all. > > > > If "virtually everything" I have ever posted about Behringer is wrong, > > you shouldn't have a problem citing it. > > > > > I'd like to respect you- but I can't till you quit making posts like > your > > > original post to this thread. > > > > I am sorry that your "respect" requires that I drink Behringer flavored > > Kool-Aid. That ain't gonna happen. > > Didn't say that. Just said quit lying. > > Apparently that ain't gonna happen. And you keep accusing me of lying without citing any specific "lies".
From: tbmoas58 on 10 Feb 2007 16:09 "hank alrich" <walkinay(a)thegrid.net> wrote in message news:1htbfs8.12nfpgnkkuaemN%walkinay(a)thegrid.net... > George G wrote: > >> trying to make a bad products abilty to destroy speakers the same as a >> good >> product that makes a small clic when powered down >> >> that is a outright lie your trying to pass off > > OTOH, failing to mention, in all the laudatory posts about the amp, that > it thumps on powerup/down, represents something less than full > disclosure. > I really see it as a non issue its a non issue with my powerights that did the same thing when there is a real cavet I do not shy away from it regardless of the brand george
From: Bob Howes on 11 Feb 2007 07:46
"Geezer Sonics" <geeze(a)deafguy.com> wrote in message news:geeze-23C758.12281610022007(a)comcast.dca.giganews.com... > > > That DriveRack PA causes a transient on turn-on may be a case for > avoiding the product for some users. I have yet to see anyone here > actually state that they have lost drivers because of this, nor have I > seen any documentation of the level of the transient. There sure is a > lot of chicken little, "the sky is falling" noise about it. > > FWIW, in the old days, before DSP and common use of UPS back-up power, > most of knew not to turn on amplifiers until all front end gear was > powered up. A) I've lost drivers (or, rather, was using some rented gear that included a DRPA) when the transient did them in....and had a major argument with the hire company before they acknowledged the fault was with their gear, not me. B) I know and adhere to a specific order for switch on and switch off. The above incident occurred when there was a glitch on the mains of only a few seconds duration, far too short to get to the amp rack and start killing things. Mains glitches happen...you don't want them to take our your speakers. Bob |