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From: Lloyd Parsons on 28 Jul 2010 10:24
In article <280720101019390434%star(a)sky.net>, Davoud <star(a)sky.net>
wrote:

> Kevin McMurtrie:
> > > Apple has been crafting stylish anti-ergonomic junk for the last 12
> > > years.
>
> TaliesinSoft:
> > How about some examples of this so-called "stylish and anti-ergonomic junk"
>
> Now, now. We all tend to forget that a statement such as Mr.
> McMurtrie's is an opinion, and is not meant to be an *ex* *cathedra*
> pronouncement. Since he speaks for himself, he cannot be wrong.
>
> In this instance, Mr. McMurtrie speaks for me as well concerning Apple
> mice and trackpads. The trackpad on my latest-generation MBPro Core i7
> is a significant improvement over my previous MBP's, but it still has
> only an ill-defined corner for a right-click instead of the two
> click-buttons I think it ought to have. This is function following
> form--usability sacrificed for a the sake of appearance.
>
> As for the mice, years of resistance to right-click, even long after it
> became useful on a Mac (was that OS 8?); the hockey puck; the little
> pea, the latest
> car-of-the-future-look-but-doesn't-fit-the-hand-and-has-no-discernable-
> click-areas mouse--all of these are useless for me, even antithetical
> to the reason I use Macs. The various Microsoft multi-button mice have
> worked exceedingly well for me because the buttons--and they are
> buttons--are located where my fingers are located. Ironic, that.
> Perhaps if I had my fingers re-located surgically I could appreciate
> Apple's pointing devices.
>
> The thin keyboard-like object that Apple distributes is beneath my
> contempt. I have two of them that will end up in the county recycle
> facility in their original wrapping because I have been unable to find
> anyone who would accept them free-of-charge.
>
> Davoud

To each his own, I suppose. I find the new keyboards to be much better
than the older ones. Small, thin and solid with nice touch.

The Magic Mouse is a great mouse for those of us that don't think more
buttons and such on a mouse are a good thing. Simple and elegant.

As to the trackpad, well it looks neat, but honestly I've never found a
trackpad on any laptop to be anything I like at all. Most likely I'll
take a pass on Apple's new Magic one! :)

Now the battery charger.... ::)

--
Lloyd


From: Steve Hix on 28 Jul 2010 13:21
In article <8bapv1Fik5U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote:

> On 2010-07-28 01:50:11 -0500, Kevin McMurtrie said:
>
> > Apple has been crafting stylish anti-ergonomic junk for the last 12
> > years.
>
> How about some examples of this so-called "stylish and anti-ergonomic junk"

The old hockey puck mouse fails the "stylish" test. (It also turns out to be
well-suited to kids' hands, just not most adults.)
From: Kevin Michael Vail on 28 Jul 2010 18:50
In article <8bbkm9Fnr1U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote:

> On 2010-07-28 09:19:39 -0500, Davoud said:
>
> > The thin keyboard-like object that Apple distributes is beneath my
> > contempt. I have two of them that will end up in the county recycle
> > facility in their original wrapping because I have been unable to find
> > anyone who would accept them free-of-charge.
>
> On the otherhand I'm one who finds the Apple aluminum keyboards
> literally the best I've experienced. They have good tactile feedback
> and are quiet, something important to me as I'm one who totally
> dislikes a constant clickety-clack sound interrupting my thoughts while
> typing.

And you can even have the clacking if you (well, not you, since you
don't want it, but anyone else reading this) -- pref pane called
KeyClick, $5 at
http://www.sustworks.com/site/prod_keyclick_overview.html.
--
Kevin Michael Vail | Dogbert: That's circular reasoning.
kevin(a)vaildc.net � | Dilbert: I prefer to think of it as no loose ends.
From: Steve Hix on 28 Jul 2010 23:26
In article <nT54o.42642$dx7.20593(a)newsfe21.iad>,
russotto(a)grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) wrote:

> In article <280720101019390434%star(a)sky.net>, Davoud <aaa(a)bbb.ccc> wrote:
> >
> >
> >As for the mice, years of resistance to right-click, even long after it
> >became useful on a Mac (was that OS 8?); the hockey puck; the little
> >pea, the latest
> >car-of-the-future-look-but-doesn't-fit-the-hand-and-has-no-discernable-
> >click-areas mouse--all of these are useless for me, even antithetical
> >to the reason I use Macs.
>
> The little pea would be fine if it would actually work, IMO. But it
> tends to stick. I rather like the car-of-the-future, assuming you
> mean the Magic Mouse. I wish there was a wired version.
>
> As for the keyboards, it's been all downhill since the Saratoga.

Still have two of them stored in the garage.

The first keyboard I've liked any better is the current wired Apple keyboard,
though. Which is why I'm not using the two stored away any more.
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