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From: pfgpowell on 23 Mar 2010 17:10
(I shall be posting this in the Windows version of this group as well
as other groups, so please no slagging off as I have had in the past
for cross-posting.)

Here at the newspaper I work for, we have transferred from working in
Quark Xpress on G4s to Indesign on PCs (they want to replace ageing
desktops and PCs are simply cheaper. False economy, I know, I am was
not consulted. The poor bloody infantry rarely is.)

Anyway, I am getting to grips with Indesign, in many ways a more
pleasant program than Quark and, more or less, getting the hang of a
Windows PC. Still don't like it much but needs must.

As part of this changeover, and in relation to the work I do, I have
agreed (for extra money) to prepare some of the pages at home and to
do this I am being given a works laptop with Windows Indesign
installed on it. (That I am being issued with a 13in laptop to work on
tabloid pages is farcical, but my suggestion that I would readily by
and use a 15.6in or 17in Windows laptop was knocked back because 'they
are not allowed to install company software on a private latptop'.
Fair enought, but...

At home I have a 1.67ghz Powerbook running Leopard and have been
looking for a secondhand version of Indesign for Mac, which doesn't
have to be the latest version as here at work (because of the page
content system we are using) we are not using the latest Indesign
version either.

My question: if I can get the Indesign for Mac, would I be safe in
building my pages on my Powerbook and then emailing (as they want me
to do) the files to work to be opened in Windows? Would there be any
conflicts? And the titchy 13in laptop they will be supplying will be
loaded with the stock images the pages I shall be working on. If files
are interchangeable between a Mac and a PC, will those stock images
also be available on both platforms with no harm done.

I must stress that my employer is a big newspaper and there is no
margin for error at all. I have to get it right from the off. Your
advice will be gratefull accepted.
From: eastender on 23 Mar 2010 18:11
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<7c606551-5add-427a-9a67-bfd39779f3b8(a)t20g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
pfgpowell <pfg.powell(a)virgin.net> wrote:


> Anyway, I am getting to grips with Indesign, in many ways a more
> pleasant program than Quark and, more or less, getting the hang of a
> Windows PC. Still don't like it much but needs must.

Bad luck on the Windows. Don't agree on Indesign being more pleasant -
it's much more complicated and less intuitive than Quark in my opinion
and I use both.

> My question: if I can get the Indesign for Mac, would I be safe in
> building my pages on my Powerbook and then emailing (as they want me
> to do) the files to work to be opened in Windows? Would there be any
> conflicts? And the titchy 13in laptop they will be supplying will be
> loaded with the stock images the pages I shall be working on. If files
> are interchangeable between a Mac and a PC, will those stock images
> also be available on both platforms with no harm done.

As Woody says, you have to be very careful about versions. Someone in a
newspaper group has just emailed me an Indesign CS3 file they couldn't
open as they are on CS2. But CS3 and CS4 do have an interchange format
(INX), but you have to remember to export it as such.

I'm sure the Mac/Windows compatibility will be fine but again as Woody
say I'd look at sticking to Windows and adding a monitor. I would be
nervous about setting up a production line from a different platform.
Shame your Mac can't run Windows.

> I must stress that my employer is a big newspaper and there is no
> margin for error at all. I have to get it right from the off. Your
> advice will be gratefull accepted.

I'd ask them if you can at least rent a decent Windows system for a few
weeks to do the job properly.

E.
From: TOG on 25 Mar 2010 06:38
On 25 Mar, 07:50, Geoff Berrow <blthe...(a)ckdog.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 07:12:15 +0000, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk
>
> (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
> >Perhaps I should have added an emoticon for irony, but I don't know if
> >there is one.
>
> :-}

<fx: scribbles note>

Thanks.
From: TOG on 25 Mar 2010 10:22
On 25 Mar, 13:54, real-address-in-...(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland
McDonnell) wrote:
> Jim <j...(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
> > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-...(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> He was in fact explicitly disagreeing with me.

No, I wasn't, actually.

>Tell me, should I just
> assume that any time anyone makes a post disagreeing with me, then it's
> sure to be irony and what they actually mean is the opposite of what
> they posted?
>
> If not, tell me: what signs should I use to detect irony when it's
> delivered?  How was I supposed to be able to tell this particular post
> was - allegedly - irony?
>
Well, like I said, perhaps I should have used an irony emoticon.

Now calm down, sweetie. Think blue. Count two. Look for a red shoe.

Go for a walk by the railway line. Admire the spring flowers.

Don't those steel rails look so pretty, in the spring sunshine? See
the electric one? Just think of all that voltage. One touch and it's
over. No more pain. No more worrying. No more ranting to Usenet.

Just...

....one...

....touch.

Go on. I double-dare you.
From: eastender on 31 Mar 2010 16:51
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> Guilty as charged. And?

I've been posting to and reading this group for many years and it's been
a great source of Mac-related advice and also some decent off topic
discussion. I suspect a troll of course, but your suicide comments (and
it's a subject I have dealt with professionally) and aggressive and
childlike attitude do not belong in even half-decent company.

E.
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